Wednesday, February 09, 2022

14 Reasons Why The "Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" Thing is Bullshit

Over the last few years, criticism of Never Trumper's acts of bad faith, failures to deliver any substantive changes to the GOP and failure to transform tens of millions of dollars in credulous Liberal donations into electoral victories have been batted away by claptrap like this.  

So let's get into it.

  1. I appreciate the Never Trumpers taking the part of Stalin in all of these analogies about "Well, to defeat the Nazi's, the U.S. and Great Britain were willing to team up with the USSR".  Thanks guys!

  2. The proverb is "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", not "The enemy of my enemy is my Supervisor" so stop trying to order Democrats around.  We're the party that didn't lose it's fucking mind so stop bitching about Democrats.  Stop demanding that Joe Biden smack around the party's most loyal and active members to balm you're unreconstructed, Liberal-hating hearts.  Stop justifying your Liberal-bashing as necessary in the pursuit of a handful of non-existent, jelly-spined Centrists.  Stop whining that Dems are not doing things your way. Remember, your party did do things your way for decades which is how you lost your fucking party in the first place, so shut up. 

  3. The Russians didn't get to run the United States army.  Stalin didn't get to shove Eisenhower out of the way and decide where, when and how the D-Day invasion would be conducted, and the citizens of the United States weren't subject to constant, public bitching by Stalin that we were doing everything wrong.

  4. WWII was a shooting war between nations.  What's happening in the United States is a political struggle between two parties within a single country.

  5. The allies' plan wasn't to pick off Hitler and go back home and leave Germany intact.  To win the war, the entire nation of Germany had to be conquered, its army and its war-supporting industries destroyed, its leaders tried and executed, its territory occupied and the Nazi party outlawed.  I'm pretty well up on Never Trump talk-talk, but I haven't heard any such plans from them regarding the future of the GOP. 

  6. Historically, World War II began on September 1, 1939 when England and France declared war on Germany in response to the German invasion of Poland.  But this was not when Russia entered the war.  In fact, according to the terms of their non-aggression pact, far from objecting to the invasion of Poland, Russia divvied up Poland with Germany once the German invasion was complete.

  7. In fact, Stalin didn't give a shit what Hitler was doing or why as long Germany agreed to abide by their pact and leave the USSR alone.  It wasn't until Germany swept into Russia in June of 1941 and got within 200 miles of Moscow that Russia became an "ally".  And the United States wasn't involved at all until December of 1941 when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

  8. So with history, timeline and motives out of the way, let's talk about wartime assets.  What the Russians brought to the fight was manpower.  Although the Nazis mounted a huge invasion force and got within 200 miles of Moscow, at the time of the invasion the USSR had over 5 million men at arms, and 14 million in reserve and in training.  (By way of comparison, in 1939, the U.S. army's strength ranged between 174,000 and 200,000 soldiers which was smaller than Portugal's military.) And even though they were scattered and poorly armed, the massive Soviet military was able to absorb staggering numbers of casualties and keep coming until the German army was forced to retreat.  So remind me again, what critical, war-making assets are Never Trumpers bringing to our  fight?  Money?  Manpower?  Elite combat troops?  Scientists cooking up advanced weapons?  Decryption expertise?  State secrets?

  9. So let's dispense with the idea that Never Trumpers are Stalin's Russia in this analogy.  Never Trumpers were not an autonomous group who were off doing their own horrible shit in their own territory when they were suddenly invaded by an outside force.  They were dog-loyal Republicans until the party base rose up and drove them out.  They don't have an army.  They don't have great wealth.  They don't have any special skills.  The only possible Russia-based analogy that works in this context is the one I wrote about four years ago here and that got me blocked by a number of Never Trumpers.  That Never Trumpers behave exactly like exiled Russian aristocracy after the 1917 October Revolution.  
    • Aristocrats who had been run out of their out of their country by the serfs they had exploited.
    • Aristocrats who suddenly found themselves financially dependent on the largess of people they detested.
    • Aristocrats who, with that special, asshole-arrogance that comes with an inbred sense of entitlement,  become indignant when their hosts don't snap to and do as they're told.
    • Aristocrats who still believe in their God-given right to command a national spotlight and who go right on airily insisting they know what the serfs really want.

  10. And let's face it  Never Trumpers are also not analogous to the Germans who fled their own country when they saw the direction the Nazi party was taking either.  Most of those who fled Germany during the rise of the Nazi party were from groups who had been explicitly targeted by the Nazis.  Scapegoats around whom their whole ideology of racism and hate were built.  

  11. If anything, in this analogy Never Trumpers would be loyal National Socialists.  Party leaders and influencers who helped bring their party to power.  Who created and spread their propaganda.  Who believed in the party's vision and goals -- and were either unconcerned with or supportive of the despicable means the party was using to achieve those goals -- but bugged out for safer spaces during the GOP's own version of the Night of the Long Knives when dissenters were purged.  Loyal National Socialists who now swear:

  12. Over the years there were a number of failed attempts to assassinate Hitler, but other than the failed July 20 plot, none of them had been planned much beyond, "Kill Hitler".  And none of them contemplated eliminating the Nazi party as an institution.  Instead, very much like certain recently-former Republicans, the plotters hoped to blame everything on an "...unscrupulous clique of party leaders":  
    An unscrupulous clique of party leaders alien to the front has attempted, under the exploitation of this situation, to betray the hard-struggling front and to seize power for their own selfish purposes.

  13. Of the small number of Germans who did emigrate to America before the Nazis consolidated power, probably the most famous were the scientists --
    The scientific exodus from Nazi Germany

    Two months after Adolf Hitler was appointed chancellor, the German government issued the Gesetz zur Wiederherstellung des Berufsbeamtentums—the Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service. With some exceptions, none of which lasted for long, the 7 April 1933 law ordered that those in government positions who had at least one Jewish grandparent or were political opponents of the Nazi Party be immediately dismissed. Thousands of people lost their jobs as teachers, judges, police officers—and academics at the country’s top universities.

    Over the next several years, hundreds of German scientists and other intellectuals would flee to the UK, the US, and dozens of other countries to protect their livelihoods and their lives. The Nazi regime pushed out leading researchers such as Albert Einstein, Hans Krebs, and even national hero Fritz Haber, who had helped develop chemical weapons during World War I. The extraordinary intellectual exodus would have tremendous implications for not only Germany but also the countries that took in the refugees...
    and the artists --

From the time Adolf Hitler became Germany’s chancellor in 1933 to the opening salvos of World War II in 1939, about 800 actors, directors, writers, composers and producers fled Europe for the safety of America. The Third Reich’s loss was Hollywood’s gain as the infusion of artistic talent changed moviemaking for decades to come....

Among the talent were directors Billy Wilder (“Sunset Boulevard,” “Some Like It Hot”), Fritz Lang (“Fury,” “The Big Heat”), Henry Koster (“Harvey”), Fred Zinnemann (“High Noon,” “From Here to Eternity”) and Robert Siodmak (“The Killers”); composers Frederick Hollander, Franz Waxman and Erich Wolfgang Korngold; cinematographer Rudolph Mate; and actors such as Hedy Lamarr and Peter Lorre. And there were others who left Germany before Hitler took power, including director Ernst Lubitsch and actress Marlene Dietrich.

-- and among these groups I can find no examples anywhere of them trying to defend the misunderstood virtues of "true" Nazism.  Or setting up their own propaganda networks to badger Roosevelt and Eisenhower into conducting the war on their terms.  Or using their influence to start up their own "Dritter Weg" movements, arguing for a Sensible Centrist position between the Extremes on Both Sides.  

And finally, I can find not one examples anywhere of anyone seriously trying to blame Churchill for the rise of Hitler because Churchill spent years warning about the rise of Hitler.

And finally, finally, if you think spilling all these words over this stupid analogy is overkill, well so do I.  And I will be happy to pack it up and send it down to cold storage once goofs on the internet stop using it.  


Burn the Lifeboats


7 comments:

Robt said...

What we are seeing is the inner disarray of the republican party.
They have achieved progress in their authoritarianism. Their greed, corruption and the purity purging so called moderate republicans for the more extreme ones.
A purging the Never Trumpers did not survive before they became Never Trumpers.

Those purged are upset. As the Never Trumpers would say, I am still a life long republican and my party has gone too far.

Coming from the the latest republicans that are purged.

Reagan told us long ago with his 11th Commandment, "a republican shall not speak ill of another republican".

What Reagan said , what I heard is,
"No matter what criminal act a republican commits. Cover it up, do not testify with truth, protect the criminal from the crime.
Should not have investigated Nixon Adm. Reagan defying law to sell weapons to terrorists for cash to fund his war in South America is merely smart politics. When GW Bush and Cheney lie about Iraq threat of WMD, attacking us on 9/11 and water boarding is only alternative interrogating. That Speaker Denny Hastert's pedophile activities must be defended and allowed because a republican house speaker would "look bad' if acknowledged.
Trump's extremely vetted campaign manager Paul Manafort giving Russian's (not one but many times) Trump campaign internal polling data on battle ground states for propaganda , The NTA taking Russian money, funneling it into USA and using it to campaign for republicans. This
All things Never Trumpets held to Reagans 11th Commandment.

( What Never Trumpers want is to be relative and require a platform (in this case the Democratic one. To make attempts for them to become relative in the GOP again. They were purged and are biding to be returned to GOP righteousness.
It is supposed to be the Democratic responsibility to correct the GOP instead of the Democratic party making progress they stand for.
Democrats, set everything aside and help make the GO strong and popular again and while doing so, make us Never Trumpets whole again after being purged by even more extremist right wingers.

It is my opinion and I am sticking by it. Until someone can convince me otherwise..........!

Freddy said...

The “enemy of my enemy” schtick can only hold up when that enemy-turned-ally is actually putting skin in the game, and fighting for YOUR cause. Bleeding for it on the battlefield, funding it directly, unequivocally calling the true enemy the enemy without caveats, or casting aspersions at the team they claimed to be on board with.

What we have with the Bulwark crew et al are cowards afraid of owning up to their repugnant pasts and unwilling to actually ally with Dems in a meaningful way. Creating videos and shit talking the most disgraceful administration in history as a means to increase their platform and enrich themselves, while never hesitating to throw shade at their supposed allies who’ve been doing the hard work of moving the country forward for decades, isn’t exactly fixing bayonets and charging the hill.

It reminds me of that kid in high school who you didn’t really like at all, but his former buddy was a real piece of shit bully who you HATED, and so the kid says “hey, I don’t like that guy or what he did to you, if you go confront him I got your back.” And so you do, only to realize your new friend is hanging back, taking bets, and laughing with his friends while you get punched in the nose. Afterward of course, it will have been all your fault for being holistically bad at standing up to bully’s.

Just another boomer said...

What is the first image?

Robt said...

Enemy of my enemy thingy.

How did that work out with American and Iraq and Iran?


By the way, I find it amazingly deep in a drunken stupor that the right is taking sides with Russia over Ukraine.

After all that right wing GW Bush sweeet patriotic schtick
About bringing freedom to Iraqi's and how we will all be greeted as liberators.
What about the Ukrainians that yearn to breath free?

Iraqis deserve freedom at the barrels of our guns and the Ukrainians deserve we sit back and watch what happens on TV?

How about my friend who has the same enemy as me, is still my friend.

wibble said...

Maxim 29: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more, no less.

DocPhysics said...

Thank you, Drifty.

One of your best and I still remember the first appearance of "Little Red Fundy."

Keep keeping the faith in basic humanity,,

























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Commander Cody said...

This is the most accurate analysis of the past forty years in the Republican Party I have ever read.