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To date, this is how the very few interactions I've had with Never Trumpers have gone, because I want to talk about the Befor...
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"There is a place...terrifying to us. To Republicans. It is called The Past. It is prophesied that, a different party will come...
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I'm not as big a fan of time travel as Driftglass is. Well, I am a fan if its "done right." Too often lately (looking at you, MCU & even Loki, other TV/movies) I think it becomes a shortcut for lazy screenwriting and/or blowing past plot holes, paradoxes, etcetera.
That said I agree with you and BG's take on the shows/movies you mentioned. And yes, I almost spoke aloud (to no one) that Harker was the same plot twist as All You Zombies. Didn't see it coming until the fourth or fifth episode however.
Time Travel is a great addition to Sci Fy in my opinion. Like other categories of sci fy there is the good , bad and below the B movie.
Can't recall the title of the movie but it was Time travel. Starred Ben Affleck and Uma Thurman. More about seeing back in time. and what to do with that knowledge.
Just a variant of time travel.
Sometimes I miss a pro left podcast. But I travel back in time to the Pro left web site and experience the past.
Great episode. I will have to watch Bodies. Hadn't heard of it. An interesting plot device sometimes used in time travel stories is did the intervention cause the event it was meant to stop. This is a subset of the time loop plots, I think. I remember seeing a TV show where a woman goes back to kill baby Hitler. When Hitler's father is away traveling she drowns his infant son in a river. The mother, upon the father's return, substitutes the Romani servant's child for the son, who then becomes Hitler. There is also the wonderful Terry Gilliam film 12 Monkeys, which you must have seen. It gives no exposition. You are trying to piece together what is happening mostly through the experiences of Cole (Bruce Willis) as he goes in and out of various times. You get the sense that the time intervention doesn't cause the problem, but misdirects attention from it's true cause. Though it is implied in the end they find a way to correct things in the future. It was never about fixing the past. The one interesting thing about Terminator 3 is the idea that the future you are trying to prevent is overdetermined, and that the intervention which would surely solve the problem wasn't enough. Which brings me to a Facebook post I wrote a couple of years ago: Why does Skynet have a time machine? Did they build it to win the war? Wouldn't some other plan be cheaper or easier? More or better tanks and soldiers. Biological weapons (not going to bother them). Maybe Skynet just sucks at war. After the initial nuke thing (surprise!) it's just throwing mooks into the scrum. Funny thing, the entire time travel concept was grafted into the story because James Cameron couldn't afford to make a two hour future war epic. So it takes place in 1984 Los Angeles. At night, because it's easier to film without permits that way. And he owes it all to your best friend, Harlan Ellison.
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