However far they try to distance themselves from the unholy monster they created, most Never Trumpers simply cannot endure more than a few minutes of critiquing the insanity of their recently former party without taking an awkward, swerving detour down "But the Democrats..." boulevard.
For, y'know, "balance".
Even if they have to make shit up, this ritual mating-call-and-response of Beltway respectability is wired so deeply into their psyches that, like Roger Rabbit and "Shave and a Hair-Cut", they are powerless to resist the minty-fresh dopamine hit of a well-placed "Both Sides Do It".
Observe as we join a conversation already in progress among the Lincoln Lads -- Reed Galen and Lincoln Project Senior Advisors Trygve Olson and Jeff Timmer -- as they are sharing their thoughts on the recent tragic Nashville school shooting
Olsen: And here's the thing about it at the end of the day. Most of those deaths are caused by the exact same weapon. It's not like they're using a pump action 12 gauge and going into schools and doing this. It's the same gun. And at some point it has to stop. And honestly that Boebert woman just drives me nuts, right? Like, she has all these pictures of herself and their kids, all armed up.
We're it within my power I would bar every pundit on Earth from ever using phrases like "at some point it has to stop" since they're lazy and meaningless. At some point every person dies. At some point the sun will burn out. So what? But other than that, I have no objections. To this point the conversation had been clear, fact-based and cited specific statistics and policies.
Galen: As did the member of congress who represents Nashville.
Olsen: Right. And it's like, I just wonder what their parents were like that they were teaching them that about guns. I mean, clearly they weren't going to hunter safety in western Wisconsin. Like, it's just asinine. And the other thing is, though, about 400 people [in Las Vegas] might be a statistic, Jeff, but every single one of those people is the most important person in the world to someone who's left in this world dealing with it. And in the case of those three kids [in Nashville] they were the most important person in the world for at least two people; their parents.
Once again, no objections. But then...
Olsen: But, y'know, the Left doesn't do itself any favors in this either, Reed.
Strap in because now we're taking that hard, non sequitur pivot away from verifiable statistics and identifiable policies and people, and into the "Both Sides Do It" land of straw men and sweeping, bullshit generalizations about "the Left".
Olsen: Because most of them don't understand, y'know, when they get talking about guns and whatever, they don't want to have a reasonable conversation about it either.
Suddenly, Olsen is somehow a fucking expert on what "most" of us on the Left do and do not understand about "guns and whatever".
Suddenly, Olsen can infallibly intuit that we "don't want to have a reasonable conversation" about guns.
Olsen: Y'know, a lot of them -- this is where the cultural differences matter, right? They're not, like, differentiating between somebody's 12 gauge they use to go out and hunt ducks or even a 9 millimeter that they're keeping in their house that they like to go and do some sport shooting with and have for security that they keep in a locked box, and AR's with, y'know, hollow point bullets. And so you don't get a reasonable conversation about it.
"a lot of them"...
"they're not, like, differentiating"...
And that's why "you don't get a reasonable conversation about it."
Fuck you, Olsen.
Olsen: I think, y'know, there are things that could be done, but I think at the end of the day some of this starts, quite frankly -- and this is what's so irresponsible about people like Boebert -- responsible gun owners making sure their kids -- and most of them do... 99.9999999 percent of them -- that they're responsible and that they're not promoting this weaponized culture.
Here's a static for you, Olsen. Clowns like you have waving the myth of "responsible gun owners" in the faces of unreasonable Liberals like me for at least a generation. We're supposed to sit down and shut up because "at some point" these "responsible gun owners" were surely going to put an end to the massacres is some inexplicable but definitely responsible manner. Which means that in the time we stoopid, irresponsible Liberals (who can't differentiate between a AR-15 and a slingshot) have been waiting for your imaginary "responsible gun owners" to step up and and at least begin doing something, there are American children have survived gun massacres, grown up and had kids of their own.
And yet, after all this time. these "responsible gun owners" are still nowhere to be found. Hey, here's an idea! Perhaps you could prevail on your hunting friends to gather the greatest wilderness trackers in American to track them down and bring out of hiding to get this working on this extremely serious problem.
Or perhaps instead it is time for clowns like you to stop telling everyone else to keep waiting for the Responsible Gun Owner Fairy to come in the night while we sleep and put Responsible Gun Control Policies under our pillows.
Perhaps instead the time has come for you to sit down and shut up and let the rest of us have a crack at the problem.
At this point, Galen grabs the wheel and awkwardly tries to steer the Lincoln Lads out of the swerve. Not by pushing back or pointing out how asinine his colleagues remarks had been, but instead...
Galen: But this is part of what I would call the authoritarian movement that Trump leads...
FYI, the beginning of every Lincoln Lad podcast begins the same way.
Hey everybody it's Reed. Before we get started, I just want to remind everyone that the fight that we're facing is not about Right versus Left. And it's not about Republicans versus Democrats.
The hell it's not.
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Where are Tipper Gore and the Mothers of Prevention when you need them?
SHAVE AND A HAIRCUT, TWOOO BIITTTS!
I despise those clowns.
"...What you mean 'WE', Paleface?!?!"
assholes... ~>X[
Mmm, I love me some minty-fresh dopamine. But never from both siderism.
It is my contention these right wingers are their to represent to the moderate republican voters that there is still that Reaganite mysticism secretly abound in the GOP and it is the excuse to stay with the GOP,.
The never Trump disease has spread and has reached it peak fever and the return to normalcy is on its way.
That their beloved religious Conservatives ideology they worship ran its course of becoming a Cult and they will help you forfeit this direction march of the lockstep booted NAZIS in spring time swan song is not to be concerning. Sure the GOP has left you. Defrocked Reagan. Excommunicated the Patriarch of conservatism , Liz Cheney. (daughter of Dick). But they won't do it to you.
GOP has been purging and purging what they call the moderates each time the farther right wingers get elected.
No, the GOP will not excommunicate its voters. Only the moderates they elect and do not march in lockstep with the NAZI votes.
There has been only one constitutional Amendment they have ever devoted themselves to and they have to reinterpret its meaning by vast amounts of money to impose SCOTUS justices tread and interpret things that aren't there and invoke things that they insert.
All for the profit of their biggest longest donor and campaigner. The NTA. Which they now claim Hess himself invoked and it was his hand that rewires its meaning. Or, it is the Weapons manufacturing CEOs that rewrote it.
Never did I hear a Rushbo avid listener bring up any constitutional Amendment other than the 2nd. I do not hear the GOP elected congressional critter raise any other constitutional amendment issue . With a sparingly exception that using the "N" word is free speech.
As Michael Steele always attempts to convey, He stays with the GOP because it used to be a great party. Like when it called President Obama a Kenyan usurper , Not American citizen and everything else they could denigrate a fellow America with. I mean damn, When Sen McCain took that Mic from the woman calling him and Arab. When McCain said , "No Ma'am, he is a fellow Aerian I happen to disagree on policies and direction" The GOP excommunicated and defrocked McCain. It is why they enjoyed Trump calling McCain < No hero because he was a POW" That POW are low life people.
You know, that moderate GOP you need to stick with.
As the base elect the extreme in primaries and the General GOP voters see "R" and cast their vote.
Only to watch the GOPer they voted for , finding out he is a white supremacist and elf proclaimed NAZI. Who their fathers sacrificed to defeat.
Again, stick with the GOP. Sure they are rotten and corrupt and only care about their self profit and will sell your representation to the highest bidder. Even if it is Putin.
They name a specific Republican gun nut, Boebert, but not a single Democrat in congress who cannot tell the difference between an AR-15 and a shotgun. Not surprising, because that Democrat does not exist.
Waiting for "reasonable" gun legislation is nearly as worthless as finding a mythical "reasonable" gun owner. Any "reasonable" gun owner would NOT put up with being lumped-in with every lunatic who shoots up a school by gun fetishist Republican lawmakers. "Reasonable" gun owners would be outraged--since there are clearly no "reasonable" gun owners, there is a stunning, cowardly silence. Gun fetishist Republican lawmakers are telling ALL gun owners: "Since we have lumped 'reasonable' gun owners together with school shooters--any gun laws will affect all of you." The gun slaughter will continue without stop so long as gun fetishist Republican lawmakers insist on arming every lunatic in America with all the guns and ammo they need to visit their hell on us all.
Good morning.
I took the advice I heard on the podcast several times and moved from Texas to Springfield, Illinois. We are living in town and orienting ourselves to our new community.
I would like to know how to connect with the progressives in this area. I am retired and have time to spare for worthwhile efforts to restore and maintain sanity in the country.
As always, I love the podcast and look forward to this new chapter of life.
Regards,
John
Good morning, DG and BG!
Ah, the NYT. It's not like I'm ever under the illusion that they're going to actually discover probity and integrity in journalism, but... just in case I even entertained the notion, their Opinion columns are always there to remind me of how utterly slimy they are.
So who's going to be worst this early April? Is it David Brooks? Bret Stephens - AND WHOA MY GOD IT'S FRANK LUNTZ WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/09/opinion/donald-trump-2024-campaign.html
I suppose we can give the Times credit for at least noting that Luntz has been a GOP communications strategist in the past. A bit sterile, but it does at least imply that this is far from an unbiased opinion.
But in literally the first paragraph of this feculent shit-pile, we get this:
>>> There is one conundrum that fascinates me above others: Why does Donald Trump still generate such loyalty and devotion?
(The second question in this PP is as disingenuous as the first, but forgive me if I pass that by, because HOLY SHIT THIS FUCKING GUY.)
Frank... Frank. Really Frank? Really?
Donald Trump still generates loyalty in the GOP base because you helped program them to produce blind, unwavering loyalty to monsters for literal decades. That's why, Frank! That's why! I know the answer: it's YOU, Frank! But of course, such things are verboten.
Good fucking GAWD these asshole hacks.
I'll spare you my reading of the rest of the article, save to say it's part nostalgia for Republican respectability and part unapologetic Trump administration porn ("We didn't like the tweets, but he was a great President."). I.e. same shit different day. He was a shitty President, and Luntz is intelligent enough to know it, but you know, narrative and all that.
And then at the end, here's this lovely little do-si-do around responsibility:
>>> The Times is committed to publishing a diversity of letters to the editor. We’d like to hear what you think about this or any of our articles. Here are some tips. And here’s our email: letters@nytimes.com.
Well, damn. I seem to be back around to about where I started. Gosh, NYT, can't figure out why the American electorate is so cynical and disaffected about American politics? Can't figure out why American voters seem so ill-informed about the cancers on our federal republic? Well, GEE, maybe look in a fucking mirror. It's you, NYT. It's you. That's the answer.
Sorry! Apparently it's Ranty Monday for me and I didn't see it on the calendar.
Thanks for all you do.
The GOP fear their primary elections. A;; the donors, all the religious leaders, all the lobbyists With FOX has control over the brain washing trigger words to cause their primary combine horde to discard them.
It only takes Some money with their paid media and a few paid political assassins and Poof. Long time hard core republican daughter of the great Darth Vader who is enshrined in GOP values and such. Can be taken out to the Wyoming woodshed and spanked out of her party.
The general election GOP voters are conditioned to vote for the primary victors. If the win the primary, they are vetted to being a true republican. Whatever republican means and is defined as in the elusive moment.
You Know Liz Cheney was discarded because Trump represented tax cuts and corrupted judges for the wealthy and Lizzy forgot that when she stood to hold deep corruption and violence of Trump (her own party) accountible.
She disavowed her service to the wealthy GOP oligarchs.
These GOP overloads Were enjoying how xylose they were coming to making America like Russia with Trump as their own little dictating Putin.
It never mattered to Liz over torture, tax cuts for wealthy during two ongoing wars, invading Iraq for not being involved in 9/11. Allowing Bin Laden an escape route outer into Pakistan so the Saudi father of Bin Laden (Saudi royalty) would receive his royal favor of his bastard child being allowed to survive and exempt from justice being brought to him by America which might upset some wealthy oil investors that are GOP donors.
You know, All this smelly complicated turds that requires air fresheners and decorated with flowers.
So the public doesn't catch on to laws are for the peons to be punish of and to control us. Unlike these wealthy overlords that money which they buy power with exempts them from the commoners laws to obey.
So make Good Friday great again
I wonder if lefties tuned out of right wing media . From checking in n what the hell is going on in the Hyena cage
at night after the zoo closes and no one is around.
What their ratings would be?
FOX seems to be the 24/7 broadcast of CPAC.
CPAC is a live performance of FOX.
I have attempted to watch to see what hair balls look like they are coughing up. Just don't have the tolerance when it only blabs at me and I can;t exchange words.
Almost every gun is a responsible law-abidin' gun owner... right up until the point when the missiles are flying. HALLELUJAH and pass the ammunition
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