Sunday, May 18, 2025

But if We Didn’t Know, It Was Because We Didn’t Want to Know.

The title of this post is a quote from the 1961 movie "Judgment at Nuremberg". It is spoken by the character Ernst Janning played by Burt Lancaster.  This was the curse he laid on himself, on his co-defendants, and on all Germans who ignored the rise of Hitler.  



Meanwhile, back here in 2025 --  

They keep publishing exactly what they’re doing www.nytimes.com/2025/05/18/u...

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— Molly Jong-Fast (@mollyjongfast.bsky.social) May 18, 2025 at 6:49 AM


-- on hears all all kinds of bitching and whining about Democrats that all come down to, "Why oh why didn't those feckless Democrats warn...?  Why didn't the Democrats message better...?"


Except...









There were hundreds of videos like these all over all legacy media and all social media platforms..  Ads.  Speeches.  Pressers.  There was ample warning.  There was abundant messaging.  

And now?  From The Washington Post:
Trump won these independent voters. Now some are souring on his second term.

Unaffiliated voters are starting to turn against Trump and his disruptive agenda, demonstrating political risks for the president and his party.

Independent voter Lisa Kirk voted for Donald Trump in 2016 in the hope he would run the country like a business. She cast her ballot for Trump again last fall as he promised to lower prices.

Then his tariffs threatened to tank the economy. Kirk tried not to check her 401(k) this month as the stock market sank. Last week, she wondered aloud to her husband if she should take the hit and withdraw funds: “If we’re going to go into a recession,” she said, “I might lose it all.”

Asked what she thought of Trump’s second term, the 60-year-old Home Depot employee began with a long pause. “Ummm …”

“Economically, he’s not the same person,” she said of Trump.

Independent voters are starting to sour on Trump and his disruptive agenda...
Independent voters can go take a flying fuck at the moooooon.

But what about every legacy media outlet's other favorite group.  Those darn Centrists.  You know, those weak-willed, dim-witted goobers who will walk 1,000 miles to find a fence to straddle.

From New York Magazine, September 9, 2024 (with emphasis added):
Believe It or Not, Many Voters Think Trump Is a Moderate

...Since the Trump campaign is deploying massive resources on convincing voters that she is a “radical leftist” or even a “Marxist” or a “communist,” the Harris campaign is working overtime (as most strikingly reflected in her relentlessly centrist DNC acceptance speech) to develop crowd-pleasing and swing-voter-reassuring messages and policy priorities.

But they have another problem that will complicate their task, as reflected in another Times-Siena question:
Do you think Donald Trump is too conservative, not conservative enough, or not too far either way?
Only 32 percent of likely voters say Trump is “too conservative,” while 49 percent say he is “not too far either way.” 48 percent of self-identified independents are in that “not too far either way” category, as are 25 percent of Democrats. So believe it or not, at this moment, and even before Team Trump spends a half-billion dollars or so smearing Harris as dangerously leftist, it’s the 45th president who is the perceived centrist in the race. That’s exactly what public-opinion researchers discerned in 2016, mostly because Trump jettisoned unpopular conservative positions favoring Social Security and Medicare privatization, free trade, and “forever wars” while Hillary Clinton suffered from decades of conservative attacks on her. Trump is in a position to replay that comparison if Harris lets him get away with it.

To anyone paying attention to the issues, the idea that there is anything “centrist” about Donald Trump is beyond preposterous...
And that is exactly the point.  It is preposterous to continue treating these people with kid-gloves: as creatures who are so delicate and fragile that to refer to them as anything more bluntly descriptive than "low-information voters" would shatter them and drive them away forever. With a decade of evidence laying right there at their feet, Independents and Centrists helped a mush-brained fascist and all of his creepy, sadistic, stupid and deranged henchmen back in office, so how much further away do you think they could be driven?

With a decade of evidence laying right there at their feet, if they didn't know, it was because they didn't want to know.  

And that doesn't make them low-information voters.

That makes them something much, much worse. 



I Am The Liberal Media



8 comments:

Anonymous said...

There are lots of plans to go around.

There was the failed election 8 ball plan.
There is the Putin and Trump 69 plan.
The revised 69 plan in Qatar.
So far my favorite is the 86/ 47 weight loss program.

SteveSteve said...

Damn right DG!

Mr XD said...

Preach Brother!

Mr XD said...

Preach Brother!

DocAmazing said...

If you voted Trump, it's because you wanted him to hurt somebody. Should I feel bad when he hurts you?

Anonymous said...

Perhaps one of my favorite films, and one that have used on the show. The greatest shock of Trumps election is not the realization of his brutality. But the realization that your neighbors would endorse that brutality, bigotry and fascism for a cheap price on a dozen eggs…that the American myth of the of “the common man” was just a guise for the same pricks that told soldiers that Anne Frank was in the attic.

Anonymous said...

Fact is they knew. Like a raved football team fan who sees his team cheering, officials rigging the game for his team.
They knew. It is why they spent so much time money and breath on making excuses. Covering up. Telling us both sides. Distracting with shining bobbles and ultimately when they were exhausted by truth and facts. They proclaimed loudly, so what!.

We have all heard GOP voters say in anger that all politicians are corrupt and how we need to wipe them all out.
You notice they say "[politicians", or "Government". They never acknowledge "republicans in it.
Their GOP politicians are all corrupt like Democrats are but they only want to rid themselves of democrats.

Oust them all they scream and run out and vote to reelect their sacred republicans. It is not loyally or supporting a political party and its ideals. It is obeying the cult leaders that have bound their souls into chains. You see, even theory voting base lies / bears false witness.
Their sources to support their positions come from the lies of long time defacating into their heads by the likes of the Rushbo to the FOX. They are addicts and need those lies to feel normally superior to those who actually know things.

Cheez Whiz said...

I don't think they are capable of "knowing", of listening to a random collection of Trump quotes and reconciling the contradictions, logical impossibilities, and flat-out lies into a coherent opinion of what Trump is and what he "believes". They hear the bits they wish to believe are true and dismiss anything else as "politics", that wretched hive of scum and villany they wish someone would just make go away. It's hard for someone who grapples with the reality of politics to wrap their heads around how disconnected from it all your Average American is. They don't know or care what government does or how it works. It makes them uncomfortable and that's all they care about.