Liberals might also search their consciences when it comes to refusing to call out evils by their precise names. https://t.co/iVOKujVFXz— Bret Stephens (@BretStephensNYT) August 15, 2017
And men are they ever leaning into it.
Tuesday, August 15, 2017
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Of course what they refuse to acknowledge is that while a small percentage of 1.4 billion muslims may commit acts terror every single Nazi's is a fucking Nazi.
If he's talking about the Black Bloc "anarchists," he doesn't read nearly widely enough. They've been excoriated in print several times. If he's talking about the drones in Yemen (I'd guess he isn't) or enforcement of deportation orders? He's definitely not informed. If he's thinking of Game of Thrones, that's fiction.
Perhaps he is maundering (as much as one can maunder in Twitter) about Lincoln Steffens having seen the future after a visit to Soviet Russia in the '30s, although I suspect that was before Mr. Stephens' time. And I think Mr. Steffens retracted the statment later. I haven't noticed that the antifa, anti-Nazi, anti "supremacist" people are defending Stalinism (or Putin) or Cuba or Venezuela. Individuals can think what they want.
But, y'know, Nazism and white "supremacy," remain objectively evil no damn matter what.
Am I missing something? When I search in various ways for accounts of "leftwing violence at Charlottesville," all I see are rightwing sites like, Brietbart & the DailyCaller, claiming there was all of this leftwing violence.
In all seriousness, can someone please point out a reputable source that lists actual incidents of leftwing violence in Charlottesville. That is: violence STARTED by the left, not just in response to being attacked by the Nazi's first.
I'm willing to stand corrected, as there was a White Supremacist rally last summer (2016) in Sacramento that had been legitmately applied for, and it was interrupted by some sort of AntiFa group, who apparently made the first knife stabs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Sacramento_riot
I know someone who was on active duty with the cops, and I guess the melee was pretty intense and frightening. It does appear as if some purportedly "leftwing" AntiFa group initiated the violence in that case.
I am still questioning (in various places) who these AntiFa groups are - I mean: who, exactly, is in them and leading them? Because often it seems like the local groups - such as local Black Lives Matter groups - don't know who these AntiFa (the black clad ones) actually ARE or where they come from.
This was also the case, as I'm given to understand, when there was some (but not as much as depicted in the lying M$M) AntiFa violence protesting the pedophile Milo Y's "talks" at UC Davis and UC Berkeley earlier this year.
I have no idea, but I get the skeevy feeling (I could well be wrong) that at least some of these AntiFa types are what used to be called "outside agitators" waaay back in the Viet Nam War protest days, and it has been proven that COINTELPRO was, as they say, "a thing," and yes, Virginia, some of these outside agitators were sent in to discredit those doing the protests.
That's not say that there were NO incidents of leftwing violence bc we do know what the Weathermen did.
Circling back: in all seriousness, does anyone KNOW any reputable source that describes actual leftwing violence - initiated by the left, not in response to someone attacking them - at Charlottesville?
Not asking for a friend. Asking for me because I'm not finding it.
Please enlighten me.
Otherwise Bret Stephens and his ilk need to STFU.
And hey, Bret: are you saying that YOU are a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer?? Because that's the way it sure looks to me. And believe me, I will continue to call out the Nazi's who are attempting to take over MY country, starting with Hair Fuhrer in the White House, who CLEARLY supports, endorses, encourages and loves the Nazi's all out there parading around with their Tiki torches & weapons. They are his true Base: Nazi's to the core.
The Vulgarian-in-Chief just cranked "both siderism" up to 11, essentially blaming counter protesters for getting attacked.
At the same time, though, he melted all remaining GOP dog whistles.
I defy anyone to prove that we weren't shanghaied to the alternate universe last November. How have we offended thee, oh Programming Overlords?
"None of this history excuses Trump’s stubborn reluctance..."
But I, Bret Stephens, just cranked out a laundry list of half truths, cherry picked quotes, and lame excuses so our conservative readers can wrap themselves in like a emergency disaster blanket.
Now they can return to FoxNews because even the "Failing Liberal New York Times" said Obama loved Muslims and their radical anti-western organizations more than this country and those poor, misguided, boys in Charlottesville were only trying to defend themselves from Obama's betrayals.
wow...anything to get your paymasters their tax cuts huh Mr. Stephens?
Good evening, Mr. Glass.
"Liberals might also search their consciences when it comes to refusing to call out evils by their precise names"
Conscience searched. I'm not demonizing an entire religion like Mr. Stephens wants me to. I seem to recall a political group that was into that sort of thing...
Be seeing you.
Both Siderism is basically Khan turning on the Genesis Device...
"If I'm going down, you're going down with me!"
"The French resistance is just so violent, just as violent as the Nazi occupiers! Why must both sides be so violent? "
The French should have just let the Nazis into their country without protest because if you just ignore Nazis and don't listen to them, then they'll just go away quietly because no one is paying attention to them.
In a related matter, how about someone naming the good people on the nazi side. Was there a bloc of historians marching with yhe klan? Or maybe some church groups shoulder to shoulder with the volks chanting Jewish hate.
To paraphrase Tom Joad, who are all these good people you keep talking about, Donny?
There were clergy there. They were beaten by the goddamn Nazis and, at least one of them claims to have had her life saved by the Antifa, or whatever horseshit they're calling the people who actually stand up to the goddamn Nazis.
Did I mention that they are goddamn Nazis?
-Doug in Oakland
It looks like the good folks over at The Baffler have been reading your column...better late than never, I suppose.
https://thebaffler.com/the-jaundiced-eyeball/control-alt-fail?utm_source%3Drss-feed%26utm_medium%3Drss%26utm_campaign%3Dfeed
Exactly.
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