"n. A minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue."
-- Ambrose Bierce
(Update)
Thus did Mr. Clemons' assertion become "part of the story" and set off quite a firestorm in its own right.Q: Washington-based foreign affairs analyst Steve Clemons said he overheard at the capital's Dulles airport four men discussing an intelligence conference they had just attended. Speaking about the leaks, one of them said, according to Clemons, that both the reporter and leaker should be "disappeared". How do you feel about that?In Dulles UAL lounge listening to 4 US intel officials saying loudly leaker & reporter on #NSA stuff should be disappeared recorded a bit
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 8, 2013A: "Someone responding to the story said 'real spies do not speak like that'. Well, I am a spy and that is how they talk. Whenever we had a debate in the office on how to handle crimes, they do not defend due process – they defend decisive action. They say it is better to kick someone out of a plane than let these people have a day in court. It is an authoritarian mindset in general."
Mr. Clemons began asking for audio engineers, requesting legal advice,
and opining that he thought he know one of the men slightly.Crowdsourcing for legal query. Cant reach our lawyers at moment. Have quick ? on pro bono basis for lawyer who can be verified as such
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 9, 2013
As you might expect, there was a rush to quickly ID these four guys that Mr. Clemons had overheard bitching loudly in an airport bar:@IrkHudson @arusbridger I didn't get names but am sure they are identifiable. I think I slightly recognize one
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 8, 2013
Early doubts were shrugged off --@NeilWMcCabe not sure. Hoping people will know from the pics even though low quality.
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 8, 2013
-- because we were going to shortly be able to judge for ourselves:@InaMaziarcz @ggreenwald come back when posted Ina -- its worth having a debate about what I heard. all best.
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 9, 2013
@TMrjmki I will. Though sound is distant
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 8, 2013
Then, still on phantom limbs but girded by Mr. Clemons' personal assurances that these "were clearly important intel professionals" --@BenHowe no i dont actually. working on it. will do transcript first but also have to try and i.d. the people before posting
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 9, 2013
-- who might well have "great intimacy with [John] Negroponte" --@kgvm not all people. Many assume these guys were blowing off steam. But they were clearly important intel professionals. That is why posted
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 9, 2013
-- the story took off...to the apparent surprise of the person who started the snowball down the hill in the first place:@TheObamaDiary @theonlyadult @BillBindc could be senior intel officials at US firms. But convo implied great intimacy with Negroponte
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 9, 2013
A couple of days later we find Mr. Clemons still working on it:@kgvm Kathy. Firestorm not my purpose. I listened to people who were clearly in intel bz. A couple said disgusting things. I tweeted.
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 9, 2013
Meanwhile, the legend of@SloughhouseDan sorry. You'll have to wait. Working on it
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 10, 2013
And so the Daily Mail reported:
Intelligence officials overheard joking about how NSA leaker should be 'disappeared' after handing classified documents to pressThe Huffington Post reported:
A group of intelligence officials were overheard yesterday discussing how the National Security Agency worker who leaked sensitive documents to a reporter last week should be 'disappeared.'...
The very excitable David Sirota reported:Leading foreign policy analyst Steve Clemons said he witnessed a rather disturbing conversation while waiting for a flight at the Dulles airport on Saturday.
According to Clemons, four men sitting near him were discussing an intelligence conference they had just attended, and turned to the topic of the NSA leaks. One said that both the reporter and leaker should be "disappeared," a term used to describe secret murders and abductions carried out by authoritarian governments. Clemons said on Twitter the suggestion seemed to be "bravado" and a "disturbing joke." He said that the officials were talking loudly, "almost bragging."...
And so forth....There was also a horrifying report from the Atlantic’s Steve Clemons of intelligence officials reportedly discussing the idea of “disappearing” Guardian reporter Glenn Greenwald and his source as retribution for the disclosures....
And so on.REPORT: Intel officials overheard saying NSA leaker should be 'disappeared'... http://t.co/VeKOYk3kLn
— DRUDGE REPORT (@DRUDGE_REPORT) June 10, 2013
Defenders arise.
More promises are made:@billymeltdown it's fair of them to be skeptical. Part of the process and welcome good and tough to hear comments
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 11, 2013
The legend grows --@GN192 yes. It's been frustratingly slow
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 13, 2013
-- while the realities fade:@markseiden by conversation but they may be senior people at top intel contracting firms
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 13, 2013
Until patience begins to wear thinner:@playlikeajet24 @GN192 very aware of that.
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 20, 2013
And thinner:@SCClemons Please post proof or retraction. Conspiracy theories abound + the mob has been worked up into a frothing hate. @playlikeajet24
— gn (@GN192) June 20, 2013
@GN192 sounds good. Understand. No retraction. Just process feel free to DM if you would like me to send you bits of this. All bestAnd thinner:
— Steve Clemons (@SCClemons) June 20, 2013
And thinner:Still waiting for @SCClemons to release the video of the Intel People talking about making people "disappear" #Yal
— YourAnonLive (@YourAnonLive) June 14, 2013
It's been a month since Mr. Clemons took the internet out for a ride based on some blurry pics none of us have ever seen, some bad audio that none of us have never heard and a single and as-yet unsubstantiated tweet.@YourAnonLive @SCClemons Still waiting...
— driftglass (@Mr_Electrico) July 2, 2013
And after (UPDATE)
UPDATE: Still Waiting Steve....
4 comments:
While playing holdem at a casino the other night...I overheard several obvious king pins at an adjoining table discussing the assassination of one of their rival drug lords.
One of them kept repeating "Hit Lee!" (an obvious reference to one of their Asian competitors) over and over again in a loud voice.
Others would say things like "For christ sakes deal already!"
(Apparently..shipments had been delayed)
There was also a great deal of concern about having been "busted"..and much consternation about "this fucking dealer is killing me!"
There were several people involved wearing vests and ties with pony tails.
(The universal costume of smack smugglers everywhere)
I got the whole thing with my Iphone, but have to filter out the surrounding din of bells and flashing lights...so the details may be confirmed.
....but the Guardian has promised to run my account (with editing for accuracy of course) in tomorrows edition.
Stay tuned....
Oh yeah?!?!?
Well...
DRONEGLASS!
Boom. Your whole post was just annihilated, DG.
(Spoken in the voice of the one-armed man from Arrested Development)
And that's why you don't pay attention to Twitter.
"Because yeah baby, sure baby, you know I love you baby, you know I'll respect you on the morning baby, so c'mon baby, let me just put the tip in baby, 'cause you got me all hot baby and it feel soooooo good baby and you cant just leave me like this baby... "
Not that most men--this one included--haven't used the term, "just the tip," you seem awfully familiar with this? :)
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