"I'm Not Naked!"
Later that night, the Lincoln Memorial was TPed, and a bag of napalm and dog poo was left on David Souter's porch.
Of course the rank-and-file of the GOP have amply demonstrated for the last 30 years that they have absolutely no problem with jamming one Glock down Liberty’s gullet and the other up their own asses and giddily squeezing the trigger.
Seven or eight times.
And of course polls are twitchy. Polls reflect people. Granted in the most funhouse-mirror way imaginable, but it is a reflection nonetheless and a whole lotta people jump around like roaches on a hot plate.
Remember the mysterious 5-7% of the electorate who were still polling as “Undecided” about 11 minutes before the 2004 election? Mindless followers with not a single opinion or preference to call their own. Our decorative, cultural carbon automata who need the mass media to tell them what to do, that to think, how to dress, and how to vote so they could say they were on the winning team. And up until the last poll was taken it was too close too call, thus depriving the sheep among us of someone to tell them who to stand up and cheer for.
And if you read the whole article I excerpted, it's not as if people were flocking to the Democratic banner in their millions. 30 year of relentless GOP propaganda, a supine and complicit press and past Democratic bungles and ball-lessness over important issues has done their damage below the waterline.
It's not like we’re virgins here.
Still, this from the NYT is enough to give this old libertine the tiniest, vestal blush of hope for the battle that is coming in November…
September 20, 2006
Poll Finds Most Americans Displeased With Congress
By ADAM NAGOURNEY and JANET ELDER
With the midterm elections less than seven weeks away, Americans have an overwhelmingly negative view of the Republican-controlled Congress, with substantial majorities saying that they disapprove of the job it is doing and that its members do not deserve reelection, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
The disregard for Congress is the most intense it has been since 1994, when Republicans captured 52 seats to end four decades of Democratic control of the House and retook the Senate as well. It underlines the challenge the Republican Party faces in trying to hold onto power in the face of a surge in anti-incumbent sentiment.
By overwhelming margins, respondents said that members of Congress were too tied to special interests and that they did not understand the needs and problems of average Americans. Two-thirds said Congress had accomplished less than it typically does in a two-year session; most said they said they could not name a single major piece of legislation that cleared this Congress. Just 25 percent said they approved of the way Congress was doing its job.
The Times/CBS News poll also found that President Bush did not improve his own or his party’s standing through the intense campaign of speeches he made and events he attended surrounding the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The speeches were at the heart of a Republican strategy to thrust national security to the forefront in the fall elections.
Mr. Bush’s job approval rating was 37 percent, virtually unchanged from the last Times/CBS News poll, which was conducted in August. On the issue that has been a bulwark for Mr. Bush, 54 percent said they approve of the way he is managing the effort to combat terrorists, again unchanged from last month, though up from earlier this spring.
Republicans continue to hold a slight edge over Democrats on which party is better at dealing with terrorism, though that edge did not grow since last month despite Mr. Bush’s flurry of speeches on national security, including one from the Oval Office on the night of the Sept. 11 anniversary.
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Across the board, the poll found marked disenchantment with Congress, highlighting the opportunity that Democrats see to make the argument for a change in leadership and to make the election a national referendum on the performance of the Republican-controlled Congress and Mr. Bush’s tenure. In one striking finding, 77 percent of respondents — including 65 percent of Republicans — said that most members of Congress had not done a good enough job to deserve re-election and that it was time to give new people a chance. That is the highest number of voters who said it was “time for new people” since the fall of 1994.
“You get some people in there, and they’re in there forever,” said Jan Weaver, an Aberdeen, S.D., resident who described herself as a Republican voter, in a follow-up interview. “They’re so out of touch with reality.”
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Evidence of antipathy toward Congress in particular — and Washington in general — was abundant. Seventy-one percent of those polled said they did not trust the government to do what is right.
“If they had new blood, then the people that influence them — the lobbyists — would maybe not be so influential,” Norma Scranton, a Republican from Thedford, Neb., said in a follow-up interview after participating in the poll. “They don’t have our interest at heart, because they’re influenced by these lobbyists. If they were new, maybe they would try to please their constituents a little better.”
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Voters said that Democrats were more likely to tell the truth than Republicans when talking about the war and Iraq and about the actual threat of terrorism. And 59 percent of respondents said that Mr. Bush was hiding something when he talked about how things were going in Iraq, while another 25 percent said he was mostly lying when talking about the war.
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So where are the really debauched election-eve parties being thrown this year, because who knows but what we may just have a cause or two to celebrate.
15 comments:
Don't kid yourself, Drifty. If the Dems won't stand up against torture, they won't stand up at all. And the American voter understands nothing but (the appearance of) strength.
The Dems will pick up a few seats in each house, but the GOP will remain in control.
Put a fork in this nation. It's done.
Sorry, surrender's not in me, but do remind me to ask for someone else if ever I'm busted up and need an EMT.
Drifty:
Sure, the voters are angry, but the GOP strategy is to work to keep them angry at both parties, so their aim may not be true when they vote (except in Ohio and Florida, where Diebold will improve their aim according to the wishes of Deadeye Dick Cheney).
After years and years of watching my fellow Americans giddily shoot themselves up the arse, as you said, I have almost zero faith in their intelligence. Add the GOP's proven mastery of both digital and analog vote fraud, and I agree with Cieran. May the Flying Spaghetti Monster grant that I will be wrong.
Dream on, Driftglass.
All those Bush supporters are still out there supporting their idealized daddy-figure. The polls merely reflect the electorate's increasing unwillingness to ADMIT their man-crush on GWB.
I predict the Republicans retain both houses in November.
Hillary loses in a landslide to McCain in '08.
I'm starting to think that the Demoratic party really is the "Democrat Party" and has outlived its usefulness.
I'm with D.G.And when it comes down, I hope to be the guy in front of the firing line,, "Fuck You, Now take your best shot."
I'm with D.G.And when it comes down, I hope to be the guy in front of the firing line,, "Fuck You, Now take your best shot."
About Tweez's "daddy-figure man-crush" idealization...
As awful as it sounds (and gawd, that sounds awful, doesn't it?), I think it's as accurate an idealization of Bush supporters' thinking as we'll find. These folks are classic authoritarian "followers", who just want to be told what to think about the world outside their own little spheres.
I suspect that the best ways to handle these cretins are (a) to find ways to get them to sit on their hands in future elections, because they have nothing of value to bring to the electoral process, and (b) to perform some kind of bait-and-switch so that some semblance of heroic leadership can develop in the opposition party (e.g., someone who can talk the manly talk and walk the manly walk, e.g., Jim Webb in VA), so that the Democratic candidate can at least split the "mindless authoritarian automaton" vote that is current going 100% to the GOP.
But until then, I see more Dobson than Jefferson in our near-term futures, and the only silver lining in that scenario is the hope that the GOP will then continue to piss off Americans faster than the Christopaths can damage the fabric of our national identity.
My money is on Jefferson winning this shooting match in the long run.
DG I hope you're right. But Karl is bragging about an October Surprise(s?).
Venture to guess one is an invasion of Iran. I think their nuclear weapons potential isn't strong enough yet, so he'll have to make something else up, like "Iran is hiding Osama"??
Another surprise: Libby's case may be dropped. Not exciting to voters and maybe not too surprising, though.
Hmm, how about an attack in the US? I don't put it past them...
Any other guesses?
RG
raginggurrl,
I wouldn't ever listen to a thing Karl Rove says. Look at what he's DONE, what he's DOING, and make your guesses about what he might DO.
He does smear & slime tactics and he does wedge issue stuff. Rove doesn't have to tell the other crazies in the WH what to do. They'll choose to invade Iran all by themselves thankyouverymuch. (actually a naval blockade and/or a bombing campaign seems more likely to me...even a "tactical" nuke seems more likely to me) Karl Rove will just use whatever crazy thing the Cheney administration dreams up to the Republicans' best advantage.
For a discussion on the "October Suprise", see Tristero over at Digby's:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_digbysblog_archive.html#115868829795310709
I think these pre-election polls always show people as dissatisfied with Congress in general, but when you question them more closely, you will find out that they mean everyone but their own Representative or Senator. They think the Congress should change by other peoples' voting, not their own. 'Oh, well Congressman X is different, he brought X jobs to our district.'
I'm afraid I'm with the gloom 'n doom brigade today (I hope I snap out of it). I think the American Experiment is over. Torture is soon to be enshrined in our laws, as habeas corpus will be removed. We're done. If the Democrats won't stand up against torture, what will they stand up for?
Diebold and spineless Dems will combine to keep the GOP in power for a very long time, I'm afraid, so it's not surrender, D.G., it's just the way it is. Sadly, none of us will ever get over it.
tweez -
Rove is the conductor of that looney orchestra, make no mistake about it.
Tristero's commentors top guesses for October Surprise:
Attack Iran
Gas prices drop
Osama caught or killed
Republican orchestrated election fraud
Democrat scandal courtesy of NSA wiretapping(my guess is that they're going after Murtha)
Resignation of Rummy
Terrorist attack in US or abroad
There are other theories. Thinking about what your enemy might do to win is war theory 101 IMHO.
RG
I also in the gloomy section of the group. I was going to make the same point that gentlewoman did. Sure voters do hate Congress, but they like the pork that their own Congressman provides. All those defense contracts? Gone. Tax-breaks? Grants? New bridges? All gone. People understand that they will be punished if a Dem oust a Rep. And I can't say that they are wrong.
You would not believe the dumb-ass letters to the editor that are in the paper every single day. These people were somehow taught to read and write, but not to think. It used to just be sad. Now I am horrified by the things they write and proudly sign their names to. And if they are wound-up enough to write a letter, I'm pretty sure that they will vote.
I am not feeling any optimism for Nov.
Of course, I do live in a red, red state.
I want to add that I WILL go out and vote when the time comes; I just have little hope about the outcome.
Right now, the only thing I can think of that might save us is: A critical mass of the elite wakes up and decides that Bushevik "conservatism" is damaging THEIR interests, liberty, and/or safety, and decides that they'd better engineer the defeat of Bushevik "conservatism". I think that's what really happened to Nixon and his gang.
I used the quotation marks because there is nothing truly conservative, in the traditional USAmerican use of the word, about messianic foreign policies or budget deficits the size of Jupiter.
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