“We got muthafuckin’ snakes on the muthafuckin’ plane!”
Why does Bill Odom hate America?
From the L.A. Times…
From the Los Angeles Times
Iraq: Get out now
By William E. Odom
May 4, 2006
WITHDRAW immediately or stay the present course? That is the key question about the war in Iraq today.
American public opinion is decidedly against the war; even in the "red states," more than half of Americans want out. That sentiment is understandable.
The prewar dream of a liberal Iraqi democracy friendly to the United States is no longer credible. No Iraqi leader with enough power and legitimacy to control the country will be pro-American. Still, President Bush says the United States must stay the course. Why? Let's consider his administration's most popular arguments for not leaving Iraq.
• If we leave, there will be a civil war. In reality, a civil war in Iraq began just weeks after U.S. forces toppled Saddam Hussein. …Iraqis are fighting Iraqis. Insurgents have killed far more Iraqis than Americans. That's civil war.
• Withdrawal will encourage the terrorists. True, but that is the price we are doomed to pay. Our occupation of Iraq also encourages the killers — precisely because our invasion made Iraq safe for them.
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• Before U.S. forces stand down, Iraqi security forces must stand up. The problem in Iraq is not military competence. The problem is loyalty. To whom can Iraqi officers and troops afford to give their loyalty? The political camps in Iraq are still shifting. So every Iraqi soldier and officer risks choosing the wrong side. As a result, most choose to retain as much latitude as possible to switch allegiances. All the U.S. military trainers in the world cannot remove that reality.
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• Setting a withdrawal deadline will damage the morale of U.S. troops. Hiding behind the argument of troop morale shows no willingness to accept the responsibilities of command. The truth is, most wars would stop early if soldiers had the choice of whether to continue. This is certainly true in Iraq, where a withdrawal is likely to raise morale among U.S. forces.
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• Withdrawal would undermine U.S. credibility in the world. Were the United States a middling power, this case might hold some water. But for the world's only superpower, it's patently phony. A rapid reversal of our present course in Iraq would improve U.S. credibility around the world. The same argument was made against withdrawal from Vietnam. It was proved wrong then, and it would be proved wrong today
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Two facts, however painful, must be recognized, or we will remain perilously confused in Iraq. First, invading Iraq was not in the interests of the U.S. It was in the interests of Iran and Al Qaeda. …
Second, the war has paralyzed the U.S. in the world, diplomatically and strategically. Although relations with Europe show signs of marginal improvement, the transatlantic alliance still may not survive the war. Only with a rapid withdrawal from Iraq will Washington regain diplomatic and military mobility. …
In fact, getting out now may be our only chance to set things right in Iraq.
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Here is the author’s CV from noted Angry Liberal Rag, Forbes.
General William E. Odom is a Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute in Washington, D.C. and an adjunct Professor in the Department of Political Science at Yale University. Prior to joining the Hudson Institute in 1988, General Odom spent 34 years as an officer in the United States Army, retiring with the rank of Lieutenant General. While on active duty, General Odom served as Director of the National Security Agency for three years, Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence for the Department of the Army for four years and Military Assistant to the President's National Security Advisor for four years. General Odom received his B.S. degree from West Point and Masters and Ph.D. degrees from Columbia University. General Odom is on the Board of Directors of V-ONE Corporation of Rockville, Maryland and the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University. General Odom is the author of seven books and numerous articles.
Oh, and when they mention he headed up the NSA they neglect to make it explicit that he held that post under notorious Liberal America-hater, Ronald Reagan…
Jesus. Haploid. Christ.
There are Snakes. On the the muthafuckin’ Plane.
Just how much clearer does this have to be?
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"J. Haploid Christ" taught my hiskool gene nettics therapeutics corse..
hey kids, wanna git high?
Just how much clearer does this have to be?
For whom?
Odom parsed it all. And he did it in a way that turns the denial-queens into gibbering idiots, when the try to refute the things he said.
And today, Rumsfailed, in another "we've-turned-the-anal-sphincter-corner, into-the-lower-intestine-light-at-the-upper-end-of-the-colon" speech, was heckled.
NOT by some space-cadet librul college kid, wary of being....asked....to help stay the course;
No:
He was heckled by (among a few others) a retired CIA ANALYST!!!
Tim Russert: "Sir, what made you decide to do this?"
Retired Spook:
"Well, Tim, I was sitting under the Potomac Bridge, quaffing a little Chateau Hostess Reserve with a few erudite and thoughtful friends
(Okay; none of them have appeared on the cover of GQ...)
and Bill Clinton's pulsating member appeared to me like one of Jeanne D'Arc's visions, and it said:
"Go get in rumsfeld's shit, while he's mixing another vat of snakeoil and Koolaid."
And who could resist a clarion call from Big Dog's....big dog?
So here I am. I figure if George Tenet can get a Freedom Medal for doing a prostate massage on junior with his tongue, I should at least get a few supportive emails, for pointing out that Rummy has lots of human entrails wound around his fingers and HIS tongue.
But, Tim, your mileage may vary. It has certainly varied in the past."
The prewar dream of a liberal Iraqi democracy friendly to the United States is no longer credible.
It wasn't credible way before we went in there!
fer fucksake.
[Homer Simpson] AAIIEE! Cobras! [/HS]
Snakes on a Plane, huh...
Well, that particular movie title, wasn't going to happen. I mean, it was, and then it wasn't.
And then a screenwriter named Joss Friedman - pretty famous guy, did the first few drafts of a little movie called War of the Worlds, you might have heard of it; Tom Cruise, Steven Spielberg, Dakota Fanning - was asked to rewrite what was to become Snakes on a Plane.
And he just loved the title. Said he'd do it based on the title alone (he'd not seen the script at that point.) And when he talked to the executives, all aflame with excitement, telling him of his love for the movie, full of ideas, telling him he'd take the job, "just so long as you promise not to change the title"... there was dead silence at the other end of the conference call... "Oh fuck, you're going to chance the title, aren't you." And yes, they were.
Needless to say, Josh Friedman didn't get the gig.
Months later, maybe a full year, he found out the movie was still getting written, and as you now know, the title had come back around to Snakes on a Plane. Why? Because of Josh's impassioned plea? Perhaps. But also because it's a great title. Sells the movie right there.
Anyway, Joss, a great screenwriter in his own right, tells us a wonderful story that you're not going to think has anything to do with snakes, planes, or snakes on planes. Trust me. Read the damn thing. It's one of the best written stories you'll read this year.
*smiles*
http://hucksblog.blogspot.com/2006/03/words-words-words.html
Odom, you fucking hippie.....
roxtar,
He smells, doesn't he? Of pot and disrespect.
Jesse,
Thanks for the pointer(s) :-)
Hephaestos,
Shhh! It's a sekrit.
Tanbark,
Turns out, the trick is bullet-points. Use 'em an the wingnuts are powerless.
Who knew?
us blues,
Good point. Them who were gonna leave the burning plane have now pretty much left. Them who refuse to see fly merrily on as their pants burst into flames.
Gotta fly. Excellent "is this Party worth saving" discussion downstairs. Really. Thoughtful and serious. Wish I had more time to RSVP, but gotta fly.
Maybe take both sides and post 'em topside. It's a conversation worth continuing, IMHO.
ta
SAMPLE DIALOGUE FROM THE UPCOMING RELEASE, "SNAKES ON A PLANE":
AGENT WATTS (SAMUEL L. JACKSON): So...lemme get this straight, you're telling me I cannot use my gun against these mother-f*ckers?
PILOT: Yes. I'm sor-
AGENT WATTS: What? You're sorry? Is that it? You god-damn right you're sorry! A sorry-*ss excuse for being the man in charge on this thing!
PILOT: Please...you don't have to shout--
AGENT WATTS: Oh, and upset the passengers? Well, I regret to inform you that they're already pretty f*cking unnerved--particularly about the mother-f*cker in seat 17C that got squished to the width of a f*cking pixie stick. And the stewardess? The one whose legs are stickin' out the mouth of that thirty-footer? Sh*t...she ain't exactly got the coach section too sedated either!
PILOT: I understand, but you cannot fire your gun in here--the cabin is pressurized.
AGENT WATTS: Jesus Christ! You mean Homeland Security ain't thought this out?
PILOT: (Beat) Perhaps you could strangle the snakes?
AGENT WATTS: You know...this is some repugnant sh*t! If Tom Ridge's *ss was on this plane--
PILOT: Michael Chertoff's the director now.
AGENT WATTS: I don't care if it's Gary f*cking Burg-hoff, if the DHS boss was onboard watching people get eaten like f*cking peanut-butter cups, you think he'd want me to holster my weapon and-and what? Charm these sons-of-b*tches like Kenny f*cking G? Huh?
PILOT: Well...yes. Yes, I-I suppose he would.
AGENT WATTS: (After a beat) Really? Well...
(WATTS COCKS HIS TWIN GLOCK 17s INTO FIRING POSITION)
Prepare to see a mother-f*cking charm offensive!
(WATTS FIRES A FUSILLADE OF BULLETS INTO A SNACK CART TEEMING WITH UNDULATING SNAKES AND SMOKEHOUSE ALMONDS)
:)
Best,
Lower Manhattanite
Please, Drift, can we talk about Porter Goss? Can we? Huh, Huh?
I knew you'd let us....
:o)
I mean, there he goes; like a bolt from the blue; in reverse; no illness.
No nuthin', except that ordination by bush, to tell everyone at Langley, including the fucking janitors, to get on board with rubber-stamping all the bloody, lying, "intelligence" that they want, to sustain their lunacy, and elevate it to "policy", or get a job driving a cab.
We don't know, YET, but coming as the mill grinds hard, on a HUGE sex scandal, it sure could be.:o)
And if Porter WAS doin' a little R&R in the corporate "hospitality suites", well, geez, that could be really dangerous. :o)
What if the particular, long-legged, high-assed "professional" who was "hospicing" him, was KGB, and was putting those little puppy-dog tongues on him, and just as he was about to get his ashes hauled, he goes:
".....unnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg....
WE'REGONNAINVADEIRANIN48HOURS!!!!!"
I mean, that could be really harmful to the troops, couldn't it?
"The Undulating Snakes" WBAGNFARB!
OK, that's it, tanbark and LM have to start blogs. Share the space if you need to guys, but you're too funny and incisive to hide in the comments here and at Gilly's place forever. DG, you know the drill. ;-)
That is all.
There are muthafucking whores in the muthafucking CIA!
No, no, Drift, you can't kick us out of the nest...:o)
I have jack-zip-shit for computer skills, and Blues, you're too kind, with the good stuff you've put up, but I LIKE riding Steve and Drift's coattails.:o)
Unlike junior's they aren't slathered in ebola-shit. :o)
Seriously, for a moment...(I know, it's getting to be laugh or cry, isn't it?)
I just asked over at Gilliard's, how far can BillyBob- and-the-petro-turds go, to duck responsibility for what they've created?
I don't think they can conjure up an attack on us, nor even look the other way, if a real one is coming.
Too many people are on to them, now.
Can jr. just pick up the phone, regarding bombing Iran, and tell the JC's: "Do it!"?
I think not. I think he needs a good bit of support from congress, and he's used most of his "mandate" to grease the wheels of the FIRST koolaid-and-bullshit dispenser. If Condi Rice shows up for a McCarthyesque:
"I have here in my hand...satellite photographs of Ahmadinejad's dick. It's 3 inches longer than was Saddam's 14'er. It's covered with warts and satanic symbols. He wants to stick it in Laura Bush. We HAVE to do something..."
The dems, themselves, will hoot her all the way back to Foggy Bottom, and probably, with help from some of the repubs.
Bush is running out of options. Because the stringing out of the shitmire IS bringing out some "newsfatigue", our collective level of concern with Iraq, ebbs and flows, but the flow is always toward the mid-20's approval ratings (:o))that will have republican rats fighting for a chance to hit the hawserlines of the USS BushCo-Shitmire. :o)
And as the wheels come off, we are GOING to be treated to a level of snivelling and begging and whining from george bush, that will make Dick Nixon look like "Richard the Lion-Hearted".
We got muthafuckin' fascists runnin' our
muthafuckin' country!
Tanbark - love your comments, but you are quite the optimist.
Bombers over Iran before October! Praise Jeebus!!!
Gayvet, thanks! Backatcha. :o)
But, I just think/believe/hope that there are enough people in our government and our military, looking at this longrunning Mack-Sennet-comedy-with-flying-body-parts, and thinking:
"What the fuck are we into?"
that he just doesn't have any slack left, to whip up another bloody chiffon-congeal.
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