Wednesday, April 07, 2010

A Brief History of Sham



The Conservative History of These United States

Chapter 1: From the Big Bang through 1964 -- When everything was awesome.

Chapter 2: The 1980s -- Reagan and Jesus single-handedly destroy the Commies and Evil Big Gummint with tax cuts. (In the interest of being Fair and Balanced, this chapter includes end-notes on a crazy, discredited Leftist theory that the Commies are actually stronger than ever. That Reagan raised taxes more than any other President ever. And that Reagan left us with bigger deficits than ever.)

Chapter 3: January 20, 2009 -- The Kenyan Usurper destroys American.

Chapter 4: 2012 --
talk to the hand
-- A New Hope.
Sigh.

What is enervating is not merely that Conservatives lie, constantly, and about almost everything: it is that they lie so fucking in-comp-e-tent-ly.

This is because they long ago became a cult, living inside a hermetically sealed bell jar, forever rebreathing Rush Limbaugh’s beer farts and regurgitating RNC talking points back and forth into each other mouths.

Like the slaveholding goons out of whose cultural Petri dish they crawled, they have built themselves an impenetrable welter of self-referential, self-deluding, self-aggrandizing lies behind which they hide: People who claim to know (with an Absolute Caps+LOCK Categorical Authority that only comes from a steady diet of Glenn Beck's ass pudding) the Secret Motives behind every Liberal thought and opinion and the secret Marxist plots and conspiracies behind the Kenyan Usurper's every "seemingly" Centrist move...are the same people who clearly haven't got the first fucking clue about their own movement's ridiculously well-documented history, leadership or ideology.

Dixiecrats? I think I ate there once. Loved the shrimp.

The Southern Strategy? Is that some sweet NASCAR move?

Lee Atwater? Who ‘dat?
[As aside -- on the subject of why anyone would believe that the institution of Slavery was the proximate cause of the Civil War -- I apparently need to re-print this every few months, just to keep it handy (with emphasis scattered in here and there by me in a fit of Liberal trickery):
Well, the Vice President of the Confederacy sure thought so (From three years ago…)
Until I finally realized that the hard-core Modern Conservative is simply not curable by facts and reason, I used to keep a copy of the “Cornerstone Speech” handy. It is the perfect Anti-Second Inaugural: one of the most famous public declarations of Confederate ideology and intent, delivered by the Vice President of the traitorous CSA himself -- Alexander H. Stephens -- on March 21, 1861.

I kept it on hand as an easy and instant rebuttal to grubby, little wingnut revisionist who wanted to blat on about the abstraction of “state’s rights” being the real cause for the Civil War, and not the concrete and evil manifestation of Original American Sin that was slavery.

Stephens obligingly laid that ridiculous notion to rest over 140 years ago when he said:
“The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution—African slavery as it exists amongst us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact.
…”
The long dead and unlamented Stephens could not possibly have been any clearer: These were butchers, terrorists and fascists who were fighting for their right to remain unapologetically malevolent and to reap the substantial economic and psychological windfalls of their evil system forever.


But what makes the speech an epic American tragedy is how its loathsome themes have remained a clear and constant refrain for the same people, fighting for some mutation of the same cause, with the same fervor almost a century and a half later.

It is, for [Modern Conservatives], always a crisp, pre-battle dawn on the Plaines of Meggido, Georgia.
“I was remarking that we are passing through one of the greatest revolutions in the annals of the world. Seven States have within the last three months thrown off an old government and formed a new.”
And God is always on their side of their filthy enterprise.
“They [The North] were attempting to make things equal which the Creator had made unequal.”

“With us, all of the white race, however high or low, rich or poor, are equal in the eye of the law. Not so with the negro. Subordination is his place. He, by nature, or by the curse against Canaan, is fitted for that condition which he occupies in our system. The architect, in the construction of buildings, lays the foundation with the proper material-the granite; then comes the brick or the marble. The substratum of our society is made of the material fitted by nature for it, and by experience we know that it is best, not only for the superior, but for the inferior race, that it should be so. It is, indeed, in conformity with the ordinance of the Creator.”
The President of the Confederacy also certainly thought so (From Jefferson Davis’ address to the Congress of the Confederate States of America, Montgomery, April 29, 1861.):

... "In the meantime, under the mild and genial climate of the Southern States and the increasing care and attention for the well-being and comfort of the laboring class, dictated alike by interest and humanity, the African slaves had augmented in number from about 600,000, at the date of the adoption of the constitutional compact, to upward of 4,000,000. In moral and social condition they had been elevated from brutal savages into docile, intelligent, and civilized agricultural laborers, and supplied not only with bodily comforts but with careful religious instruction. "Under the supervision of a superior race their labor had been so directed as not only to allow a gradual and marked amelioration of their own condition, but to convert hundreds of thousands of square miles of wilderness into cultivated lands covered with a prosperous people; towns and cities had sprung into existence, and had rapidly increased in wealth and population under the social system of the South; the white population of the Southern slaveholding States had augmented form about 1,250,000 at the date of the adoption of the Constitution to more than 8,500,000 in 1860; and the productions of the South in cotton, rice, sugar, and tobacco, for the full development and continuance of which the labor of African slaves was and is indispensable, had swollen to an amount which formed nearly three-fourths of the exports of the whole United States and had become absolutely necessary to the wants of civilized man."
And from Mississippi --

"...Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. ..."
-- to Alabama --
"...Years ago I was convinced that the Southern States would be compelled either to separate from the North, by dissolving the Federal Government, or they would be compelled to abolish the institution of African Slavery. ..."
-- to Texas --

"...In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon an unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of equality of all men, irrespective of race or color-- a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of Divine Law. ..."
-- all the Confederate states for some reason felt obliged to prominently mention Slavery in their Declaration of Causes of Seceding States.
-- End of Aside.]
In this sense, the Right really hasn’t changed much in the last, few decades, except that amplifiers and exploiters like Hate Radio, Regnery Press, the Moonie Times, Fox News, a dozen wingnut welfare “think tanks” and a whole tribe of political grifters and prostitutes have figured out how to generate record profits by turning the age-old demagogic trick of telling ignorant, hateful nutjobs that ignorant, hateful nutjobism is actually noble and patriotic...into a multi-billion dollar business empire.

From the hilarious Gail Collins over at some New York paper:
...
“Many issues of the Civil War are still being debated today,” said Brag Bowling of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, which led the push to get that proclamation in Virginia. That seems extremely depressing, as if we were Serbs stewing about what the Turks did at the Plain of Blackbirds in 1389.

Actually, a national discussion of Civil War history sounds fine — as long as we could start by agreeing that the whole leaving-the-union thing was a terrible idea. In the proclamations, it generally sounds as if everything went swimmingly until the part where the South lost and grudgingly rejoined the country.

Virginia has been making big leaps lately in the category of general craziness. We all remember the Legislature’s heroic work in passing a bill to protect Virginia citizens from having microchips planted in their bodies against their will. And that the sponsor said he was concerned the chips could be a “mark of the beast” that would be used by the Antichrist at the end of days.

Confederate History Month was promoted by former Gov. George Allen, who was fond of Confederate flag-décor and suffered from a sense of history so imperfect that he did not discover his mother was half-Jewish until he was 54. Allen’s proclamation celebrated the Civil War as “a four-year struggle for independence, sovereign rights and local government control,” with such cheer that you would really think the fight was all about zoning.
...
So while the Right hasn't evolved one second but instead (as they methodically centrifuge out everyone with a conscience and an IQ above "meatstick") actually seems to be getting exponentially stupider every year, what has changed, markedly, is the Left.

And about damn time.

We have finally gotten it through our Dirty Hippie, welfare-cheatin’, America-hatin’, Stalinist skulls that Modern Conservatives are a complete cultural dead-loss. That no tonnage of facts or cubic feet of reason is ever going to make so much as a crease in their Dumbass Shield, because at some, dim, reptilian level they understand that, if that shield is ever breached, the fairy-tales on which they have built their entire identity would evaporate like a snow cone in a super nova.

We no longer feel constrained to always try for compromise and common ground with people who have spent the last 30 years slashing and burning and salting the political Earth behind them.

We have begun to suit up, en masse, in the demeanor the late Steve Gilliard was sketching out years ago;


“Conservatives make the assumption that liberals care what they think and will react to it.

"There's a tendency for liberals to try and be fair, to consider other viewpoints, so we get baited by them in debates on terms that they set. I'm going to act on the following: I don't care what conservatives think. The NRO Corner thinks I'm a racist, I don't care, their opinions on race are meaningless.



I want conservatives to read this site and come away steaming. I don't want them to think they will like a word I will say here. I don't want them to think I will consider their opinions or viewpoints. I want them to think: boy he doesn't like conservatives and really, really doesn't care what we say.


I'm tired of people acting like these people can be reasoned with or talked to.

They don't want to talk, they want to drive us away into a corner and ridicule our ideas.
I'm not writing to make conservatives happy. I want them to hate my opinions.

I'm not interested in debating them.
I want to stop them.”
We are, in other words, free.

35 comments:

dan of steele said...

uncle

Joseph Nobles said...

The Internet has allowed us to compare notes.

Glen Tomkins said...

You're not from around here, are you?

"Like the slaveholding goons out of whose cultural Petri dish they crawled..."

Maybe the explanation lies in that "cultural" qualifier, because no one with deep roots in the South, no one actually spawned and nourished in the Petri dish, would think that the modern racists are literally descendants of slaveholders. I am one, a descendant of slaveholders I mean, and I have to say that mostly we have proven too effete to give rise to any descendants, racist scum or otherwise. I'm the non-exception that proves the rule.

The racists these days, the Bubbas of the earth, are descendants of the White Trash from slave days, while we slaveholders, before we died out, were the Quality Folk. The quality in question was mostly a high, but not quite high enough, tolerance for bourbon, though a tendency to familial insanity is also right up there among our salient qualities. Mostly, though, we died out as a separate social entity because we were never very good at anything practical. My slave-holding ancestors, for example, used slave labor as a means of allowing themselves the freedom to indulge the gentleman's hobby of medicine, a purely prestige accomplishment in those days, something at which you could not make any money. Well, you couldn't make any money at it until right about the time we got out of it because all of those money-grubbing trashy people crowded in on us.

So yes, slaveholders, Petri dish dwellers -- quite accurate. But please, not the same Petri dish as those Snopes types smart enough to actually turn racism to political profit on an ongoing basis.

mark1147 said...

" ... the Right hasn't evolved one second but, as they methodically centrifuge out everyone with a conscience and an IQ above "meatstick", actually seems to be getting exponentially stupider every year ..."

Sheer poetry!

When I grow up I wanna write like drifty.

deering said...

Glen, so all that Ashley Wilkes-as-a-hapless-throwback stuff is in good part true? Wow. I thought it was stereotype...

Mike W. said...

Clearly Driftglass chooses to denigrate and attack those he doesn't understand.

So very typical of a "tolerant" and "progressive" liberal.

someofparts said...

Thanks for sharing those sentiments from Steve Gilliard. Count me in.

One of the notions that cheers me lately, if I'm not being too large a fool to think it, is that a younger generation is watching the wingnut antics and getting a bellyful.

Anonymous said...

Congrats Mike W., you are the first winner of the Meatstick Award (tm) for your utter failure to comprehend Drifty's post.

The United States Blues

someofparts said...

I am not only old, I was also born in the South. I was a child in public school during the Jim Crow apartied days.

What I remember about the wingnuts who ran my school, church, town, is how they treated me when I was just a kid, not even a teen yet. And how they treated me was to make it clear that they just didn't like little girls like me.

I'm sure little black girls of that era got treatment that was magnitudes worse. I just got it because my mom is Italian, so I don't look nordic.

But now I'm an old woman looking back at it and I look at winguts and see/remember them as people who hate children. Not all children of course, just the dark ones that are so objectionable.

So yeah, I overstand where Gilliard was coming from. What kind of people get puffed up with self-righteousness by hating children? I don't know. I just know I don't give a happy pink damn what they think.

Mike W. said...

I understood his post just fine US Blues.

skunqesh said...

Mike's just upset cuz his frilly little thong got all hot and knotted by being denigrated (aka 'Spanked') by a righteous adverb.

poor mikey

driftglass said...

"Clearly Driftglass chooses to denigrate and attack those he doesn't understand."

I understand perfectly: I used to believe many such ignorant things too.

Then I hit puberty, moved out on my own, got a real job, and stopped masturbating to "Atlas Shrugged".

Anonymous said...

Hey Driftglass, how dare you not understand the racists? What are you, prejudiced? Especially after that detailed explanation of what you were getting wrong ...

BTW, from the Confederate Constitution:

"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed."

It doesn't say "Each state has the right to decide whether they want to keep slavery, because this is really all about states' rights." It says "Slavery today, slavery tomorrow, slavery forever fuck you."

Rick Massimo

watchdog said...

What always got to me was how southerners would claim that the confederate flag was a symbol of their culture. I find that to be compleatly ridiculous, it's the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, Lee's army. It is not the Confederate national flag, it was mostly being waived by various racist and segregationists in the decades after the war. And after they lost the Civil Rights battles they pretty much use it to rub others noses in their own ignorance disgused as a so-called heritage.
I for one am glad to see a certain push-back against the cult of the lost cause, so called. You want to remember an ancestor who fought in the war for the south, fine, but dont expect anyone to respect you for wanting to celebrate the Confederacy itself as it was a poorly thought-out "cause" that was rightly defeated.

Anonymous said...

Mike W , the real problem of your ignorance is your lack of realizing your ignorance. Those facts that you don't know you don't know.
Poor boy.

Mike W. said...

I have to love the projection of liberals..... projecting their own ignorance onto someone with a dissenting opinion as a means of both ignoring it and avoiding civil, adult discussion.

SordidPanda said...

Just remember, The Party of Lincoln was Republican. I bet that little fact just sticks in your craw.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of avoiding civil and adult discussion, Mike, we're still waiting for actual nouns and verbs from you about what we and Driftglass don't "understand." Or, for that matter, what your "dissenting opinion" even is.


No, we're not actually waiting. We know you've got nothing.

"What always got to me was how southerners would claim that the confederate flag was a symbol of their culture. I find that to be compleatly ridiculous, it's the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, Lee's army. It is not the Confederate national flag, it was mostly being waived by various racist and segregationists in the decades after the war. And after they lost the Civil Rights battles they pretty much use it to rub others noses in their own ignorance disgused as a so-called heritage."

In all the hoohah in 1999-2000 about flying the Confederate flag over the state capitol of South Carolina, most of Our Media Stars bent over backwards not to inform people that it had only been flying over the capitol since 1962. I wonder what the motivations could have been.

Rick Massimo

Anonymous said...

Just remember, the party of Lee Atwater was Republican.

"You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."

Sticks in your craw, doesn't it?

Anonymous said...

Just remember, the party of Lee Atwater was Republican.

"You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."

Stick in your craw at all?


Rick Massimo

Anonymous said...

Sorry for the double comment; the first one didn't show up at first.


Rick

Angel Of Mercy said...

Driftmaster, you're getting nothing but better...and puddles of diarrhea like Mike W. just can't stand a healthy dose of facts and reality.

Tough tuna, Mikey...

Mike W. said...

Angel - thanks for providing a perfect example of what I pointed out in my initial comment.

Habitat Vic said...

Okay, Mike.

You didn't "point out" jackshit in your first comment. Lets review:

- Clearly Driftglass chooses to denigrate and attack those he doesn't understand.

Clearly? How about starting with "obviously" or "of course" or "anyone with an ounce of brains can see?" Nice presumptive declaration, but you don't back up anything with facts.

Denigrate and attack? Well, yes, Drifty does that, certainly the attack part. So what? After he denigrates and attacks he backs up his point (about slavery being THE major cause of the civil War) with about 1500 words, and links, and names his sources. Sources as in the literal words spoken and written by the heads of the Conferacy and the state declarations of its members.

Doesn't understand. I hear that a lot. Children, frustrated people, people who are emotional and want to avoid looking at things rationally. You have a wonderful strategy for emotional arguments. Logical debate? Not so much.

- So very typical of a "tolerant" and "progressive" liberal.

More whining. Big whoop. Look, if you came here and refuted Drifty's arguments - as in logically, with sources, quotes, train of thought, pointing out inconsistencies/exceptions/etc - you might earn a gruding respect (maybe).

So, you want to return fire and denigrate Drifty and "us liberals." Cool. Make your case, state facts, provide sources. Prove us wrong.

Myrtle June said...

I think Driftglass' most excellent post must be translated for mikew.... and the other screechers:

"WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK! YOU BETCHA! *wink*"

Always happy to help in some small way. :-) No charge... this time.

Anonymous said...

WOW!!! Just WOW!!!

It's absolutely amazing how misguided someone living in a free country can be. No restrictions on internet information, the entire world of knowledge, and you still manage to completely ignore the fact that the group of people who you now call "liberal" were indeed the slaveowners of the past.

They most certainly were not Republican, they fought against the REPUBLICAN led United States, they fought against the conservative Christian values of the north, which were preaching that slavery was wrong.

It was, and remained well into the 1960's, Democrats who fought AGAINST the rights of blacks, it was Democrats who perpetuated the Jim Crow laws, and it was Democrats who instituted the racist gun laws so that blacks might now arm themselves.

It was Democrats who founded the KKK, it was Democrats who led the KKK, and it is Democrats still who populated the remaining enclaves of racist groups.

There is no difference between the rascist Socialist Nazis of Hitlers groups, and the current fundamental beliefs of the Democrats, and the Democratic Party continues to espouse the very same Socialist pap that the Nazis once espoused themselves.

Let's see:

Anti gun laws, so that we can round up the Jews, homosexuals, and Gypsies?

Yep, working on that one.

A nationalized health care plan?

Yep, passed that one already.

Increase taxes on those willing to work, so that 1/2 of the population willing to work supports the other half?

Yep, we're there.

Decry and deny basic Judeo/Christian beliefs so loudly that people are afraid to admit that they beleive in God?

Yep, got that one covered.

Point out that those who oppose the government must all be silenced?

Yep, working on that one. (Not accomplished so far, but note the administrations public statements on Fox News!)

Well, I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything must be a nail!

You sir, are lost in a sea of idiocy, and refuse to accept that there is a lifeboat.

Anonymous said...

You cannot refute Driftys arguments, because there is no logic or intelligent thought to them.

They are the misguided attempt of a misguided mind to justify the past mistakes that are being repeated.

Those that refuse to understand history are doomed to repeat it, and his is a perfect example.

Anonymous said...

"They are the misguided attempt of a misguided mind to justify the past mistakes that are being repeated.

Those that refuse to understand history are doomed to repeat it, and his is a perfect example."

Now THAT'S funny. You almost had me going there for a minute. You sounded like a conservative who was so blinded by his own stupidity that he didn't realize he was talking about himself. But that was a really subtle way of making Driftglass's point: That conservatives make the same mistakes over and over again because their philosophy has been thoroughly tested and shown to be a complete failure, and yet they keep saying "but it's different this time."

Nice job.

As for the obviously different anonymous commenter before you: Yeah, right. That's what the Nazis were best known for: universal health care, increased taxes and arms control. Yeah, especially arms control.

(By the way, I like how you use "working on it" as a euphemism for "I have absolutely no evidence for this, because it isn't actually happening, but I'm going to say it anyway." And by "like," I mean "call bullshit on.")

As for the racist past of the Democrats, 1) If anyone can explain why southern white people switched in droves from the Democrats to the Republicans after the civil rights laws of the mid-'60s, without using the words "they were racists who found an ideological home," I'm all ears. Bonus points for explaining Strom Thurmond; 2) I can't help noticing that no one has addressed the Lee Atwater quote I posted above. I wonder why that is. No, I don't really; I know full well why.


Rick Massimo

Habitat Vic said...

First President to institute an income tax?

President that created the federal National Park system. And used federal anti-trust laws to break up 3 of the 5 largest corporations in the US.

Largest one-year increase in income tax rates (from 25% to 62%).

Proposed agreement with Soviets to reduce US nuclear warheads by 1/3.

Answers? Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Hoover and Reagan. Yeah, its a trick set of questions. Lincoln (federal trumping states rights, tariffs, freeing slaves, income taxes, drafts, etc) and Teddy R (who got summarily kicked out of his party) would be kicked out of today's Republican party. Hoover, OTOH, fucked the US economy so badly into the ground (unregulated banking and a credit bubble) that he had little choice but to more than double taxes on the wealthy. In summary, you cannot fool me with your Jedi, selective-fact mind tricks.

Republicans and Democrats aren't necessarily what they used to be over the last 150 years.
And BTW, it was the LIBERAL Christians of the North that were opposed to slavery. The CONSERVATIVE Christians of the South supported slavery quite vociferously, with self-justifying Scripture and all.

Points of clarification: That socialist President Roosenfeld FORCED the Repubs to ramp up our war efforts (look up Lend-Lease), despite Repub assholes like Henry Ford & Prescott Bush sucking Hitler's dick to make a little money by selling/lending to the Nazis. It was LIBERALS who formed the Lincoln Brigade, and volunteered with the RAF and Canadian RAF in the late 30s and early 40s to fight the fascists. If it was up to Conservatives (previously parts of both parties; now mostly the Republicans) and the greedy wealthy fucks (kind of always the Republicans), we'd be part of the Nazi Empire, with Herr Rove in charge of propaganda.
Patriotism is a slogan to conservatives (and today's Republicans). They would sell out this country in a minute as long as they were part of the elite left standing. Nazi/fascist/Commie/Christopath/whatever. Just my opinion, but go fuck yourselves.

And "clearly" todays racist enclaves (KKK, Patriots, etc) are filled with Democrats. I mean, really, you say "racist, pig-ignorant motherfuckers" and, you betcha, might as well say Democrat.

Who's the cute funny trolls? You are! Yes you are. Yes you are.

driftglass said...

"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.'

And God granted it."


-- Voltaire

I am never more hopeful for the future of my country than when I am reminded that democracy's most vocal, internal enemies are mostly pig-ignorant mental patients whose worldview depends entirely on A) Pretending the last 50 years of American history never happened, B) Cartoonishly misreading the 100 years before that, and C) Aggressively gobbling up whatever comes tumbling out of Rush Limbaugh's ass on any give day as it it were fine, Belgian chocolate with Jesus sprinkles.

Be of good cheer, kids; what you are hearing is just the terrified squeal of ancient evil being pushed inexorably towards extinction.

This is what winning looks like.

Mermaid said...

Havin' a "gingham dog and calico cat" moment here, are we?
Mermaid

Manitoban said...

Driftglass: YOU RULE... You must be gaining popularity - look at all the stupid trolls you're beginning to attract.

Anonymous said...

"There is no difference between the rascist Socialist Nazis of Hitlers groups, and the current fundamental beliefs of the Democrats, and the Democratic Party continues to espouse the very same Socialist pap that the Nazis once espoused themselves."

Just. Fucking. Wow.

Indeed...

Where to even begin... Fuck it.

skunqesh said...

"I have to love the projection of liberals..... projecting their own ignorance onto someone with a dissenting opinion as a means of both ignoring it and avoiding civil, adult discussion."

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watchdog said...

I am never more hopeful for the future of my country than when I am reminded that democracy's most vocal, internal enemies are mostly pig-ignorant mental patients whose worldview depends entirely on A) Pretending the last 50 years of American history never happened, B) Cartoonishly misreading the 100 years before that, and C) Aggressively gobbling up whatever comes tumbling out of Rush Limbaugh's ass on any give day as it it were fine, Belgian chocolate with Jesus sprinkles.

Man, I wish I could sum up the republican'ts so well, that was perfect.