Stop trying to reason with these people.
You can't.
Stop pretending they have points of view worth respecting.
They don't.
Quit bringing metaphorical knives to gunfights, and at the next town meeting when the Cash For Wankers crew shows up to run in circles and scream "Hitler" until they shut the place down (or until their corporate sponsors have enough footage to use for the next news cycle)...do not stand there looking like a brace of tharn bunnies.
Because these people are not joking around, and they are not going away. Sara Robinson brings her eloquence and scholarship to bear on the antics of GOP's Insane Clown Posse and their corporate ringmasters here, and what she finds isn't funny or harmless at all:
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It's so easy right now to look at the melee on the right and discount it as pure political theater of the most absurdly ridiculous kind. It's a freaking puppet show. These people can't be serious. Sure, they're angry -- but they're also a minority, out of power and reduced to throwing tantrums. Grown-ups need to worry about them about as much as you'd worry about a furious five-year-old threatening to hold her breath until she turned blue.
Unfortunately, all the noise and bluster actually obscures the danger. These people are as serious as a lynch mob, and have already taken the first steps toward becoming one. And they're going to walk taller and louder and prouder now that their bumbling efforts at civil disobedience are being committed with the full sanction and support of the country's most powerful people, who are cynically using them in a last-ditch effort to save their own places of profit and prestige.
We've arrived. We are now parked on the exact spot where our best experts tell us full-blown fascism is born. Every day that the conservatives in Congress, the right-wing talking heads, and their noisy minions are allowed to hold up our ability to govern the country is another day we're slowly creeping across the final line beyond which, history tells us, no country has ever been able to return.
I would suggest that one, small thing any citizen could do right way is to act like a good Boy or Girl Scout and be prepared.
You could, for example, go to any decent sporting goods or hardware store and pick yourself up an air horn.
They look like this.
They are harmless, but Very, Very Loud.
Or, if you want to go cheap/old school, you can pick up a collapsible stadium horn for
under $5.00.
Then you and 4-5 similarly prepared friends could head on over to your local town meeting, where your little honor guard can easily bracket even a large room.
Now if opponents of health care, or the stimulus, or anything else want to have a gen-u-ine debate, I say great. And if it gets a bit passionate and heated, that's fine too: I figure anybody who has the nads to climb into the arena and go credo-a-credo deserves my respect whether I happen to agree with them or not, so bring it on!
But once it becomes clear that all they want to do is crush debate under a cataract of incoherent decibels, then every single time they open their fucking mouths -- all night long and into the parking lot -- let's let these CHUDs know
loud and clear
that, if we choose to, we can beat them like the proverbial rented mule at that game too.
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Grown-ups need to worry about them about as much as you'd worry about a furious five-year-old threatening to hold her breath until she turned blue.
that wouldn't be so bad. not much to worry about...unless the furious five-year old had a .357 Mag under that cute little pinafore, and was under no hesitancy to use it to get her way...
Then there'd be a bit of a problem, i reckon.
Cops won't turn on WHITE thugs oppressing minorities, immigrants, the poor, the despised. No german cops interfered with the SA when they went after socialists and jews...The spoiled children know it, and capitalize on it.
Nice suggestion, but totally naive. The problem, of course as you have pointed out many times, is that the media propaganda game is completely rigged. When right-wing sick-fuck puppets of corporate oligarchy screech and scream and shut down debate, according to the wholly-owned corporate media, they are "airing legitimate concerns". If Dems try to prevent any of that shit, they are "stifling debate JUST LIKE INFINTY HITLERS".
Releasing the corporate stranglehold on the mainstream media is a *prior* condition for dealing with any of this fucking shit.
Unfortunately, they are carrying into some places.
They are scared shitless and being exhorted to go all in by the usual suspects and it will be a matter of time until one of these deranged motherfuckers yanks leather and opens up.
If we get lucky, the brain dead idiot will make the mistake of doing that in a Right To Carry state and then at least twenty fucking people will die because the adrenaline rush will fuck up the aim, think Buck fever.
Don't get me wrong, at this point in the game with these crazy motherfuckers, I wouldn't go near one of these clusterfucks .
I am just smart enough to sit back and watch that bunch of fuckery happen from a distance.
Drifty, yet another fine rant.
Physio, "Releasing the corporate stranglehold on the mainstream media is a *prior* condition for dealing with any of this fucking shit."
Uh yeah, and how do you propose we DO that, Ph.D.
And how do you propose we battle the Corporate Feudalist Overlords?
Who own and buy everyone and everything?
Just what do you propose is to be DONE, to wage this epic and essential struggle for the masses?
Hmmm?
Busted, as always, yer on the logic of simple.
It's fucked up.
If ya go there, be prepared to wage your life.
If ya don't wanna wage yer life, don't go there.
But sorry, hoss, I'll quote CSNY in that lame assed 60's way when we got batons on our heads.
Find the cost of freedom.
What's it worth to any of us?
Busted, sorry I meant if ya GO there it's likely fucked up.
I did NOT mean you are fucked up.
Not by any means.
We're gonna end up on the streets again.
I hope all y'all know that.
At our ages, too. For a SECOND time dammit.
If we don't, we're phooked, and those behind us, age wise, are phooked too.
Takin it to the streets.
They raht bastids are betting that we can't do it, or won't do it, at our ages.
Fuck them.
We're younger than the fucks being bussed in and packing in to these town halls.
Man for man, body for body, shout for shout.
Word for word.
Up against the walls, mothuh fuckuhs.
Again.
Or we all lose, and die worse the wear we thought we WOULD pass on with.
And hell, let's NOT even bring up the thought of those behind us.
Wonder if them younp pups will fight.
Cuz THEY are getting screwed hard, too.
So?
Came across a great line in Clive James' book, "Cultural Amnesia":
"There's no reasoning someone out of a position he hasn't reasoned himself into."
Any time I'm tempted to take the bait and get into a useless "dialogue" with these people, I just repeat that sentence to myself.
It's spared me hours of futility and frustration.
Uh yeah, and how do you propose we DO that, Ph.D.
There are all kinds of things, but tooting horns at sick-fuck right-wing loonies--as fun and satisfying as it is--ain't one of 'em. People like Glenn Greenwald, Digby, Sara Robinson and Dave Neiwert, Firedoglake, et al, write continually about what we can do to try to reverse the corporatization of the mainstream media.
FYI, my PhD is in physiomotherfuckinology, holmes. So I have no idea what the relevance of my PhD is to what we're talking about.
Little enough is going to change unless and until the Democratic "leadership" pull their heads out of their asses and begin treating these scum as a genuine threat. But that supposes that the Dem "leaders" are (1.) capable of understanding that, and (2.) whether they'd they'd want to actually stand up to the scum even if they do come to recognize the patently obvious.
And we can't assume either of those factors.
and unlike the brownshirts of the past - these folks can now talk to each and find each other instanteously
PhysP, that was a typo. 'Sposed to have beenPhP, for your handle. My bad, sorry for the confusion.
While there's been a lot of THINGs done by the bloggers you mention, we've taken it on the chin from more war, no stimulus for the masses (jobs), handouts for the banking/finans, a very WEAK energy proposal, and likely a watered down healthcare reform effort.
So, what EVER is being done, is not enough.
So far, all the leverage is on our elected offals, but they are just the paid shills to make it look good.
The real issues are with the corporate feudalists and the 1% who own this country.
THEY will not change from political pressure, or much of anything. Ergo, bodies in the streets, work stoppages, and more pressure.
Somehow, also, we need to rewrite corporate laws and reinstitute regulation of all corporate industry across the board. But that's the political side, and the elected one's won't do it cuz they are paid off by the corps.
Quite a merry go round . . . . popular and massive and peaceful revolt, boycotts, MIGHT drive some change and get the elected one's to do their jobs better, but the pressure HAS to be put on the corporatist state that holds us in their firm grip.
might be worth applying a few sections of the USAPATRIOT Act that they were all so gung-ho about, like: Section 802 of the USA PATRIOT Act (Pub. L. No. 107-52) expanded the definition of terrorism to cover “"domestic,"” as opposed to international, terrorism. A person engages in domestic terrorism if they do an act “"dangerous to human life"” that is a violation of the criminal laws of a state or the United States, if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. Additionally, the acts have to occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States and if they do not, may be regarded as international terrorism.
Seizure of assets - Sec. 806: Section 806 of the Act could result in the civil seizure of their assets without a prior hearing, and without them ever being convicted of a crime.
hoist, meet petard
Well, I for one am all for the air horn "Stupid Stopper" approach.
Fuck the media.
Hold it down low and then say to your neighbor "Excuse you".
Just tell the media the same "truths" the liars are telling.... you're one of them but you disagree with them. You like the idea of death panels. You want to be on the death panel so you can deny these fucking assholes coverage. Oh, and btw, what kind of insurance do you have ms. fox news reporter? Blow a little air horn at the fly landing on the microphone.
Yes. I like the airhorn idea. Has possibilities. Assholes and media... two bird with one little old horn. I like it alot.
Let me add that if ScumNET is trying to astroturf manufactured "outrage" footage, lots of things will fuck their shots also and make the footage and their equipment unusuable.
Think: Flashbulbs, automatic flashes, strobes, or better yet, that holographic glitter dust that's used as a cosmetic by ravers, strippers, and clowns. Opening up a small tub of that in front of a small portable fan will fuck ANY photographic equipment it lands on as it causes micro-teeny reflections and it's very hard to get off. It will also cause micro-reflections into the cameras from all angles and screw any auto-corrective light meters.
In fact, LUSH makes a gold hair-glitter puck that does the same thing with micro-gold particles. Drop some on your carpet and you will live with glitter in everything until you move house.
BTW, the Glitter and Flashbulb thing was first widely done as a protest in certain residential 'hoods in NYC by the locals, when they got fed up with all-night, month-long, noisy, bright TV episode shoots outside of their apartments.
It actually worked in some cases; shooting companies started to behave themselves, keep human hours, and stopped blocking the local parking spaces and sidewalks with impunity. Case in point: Brooklyn Heights. Now, this last example probably only worked because most of the residents there are now pretty well-heeled, but still, they gave examples for all to use.
I wish to say, rather off topic, that I love you for using the word "tharn". That is all.
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