Sunday, March 12, 2006
Sunday Mornin’ Coming Down – Part 2 of 2
In which the children are shooed from the room, and serious men discuss serious matters.
In case it had escaped anyone’s attention, Iraq is lost.
This is not hyperbole.
Nor is it any more or less “defeatist” than watching a tornado reduce a farmhouse to splinters and noting that the prevailing weather is wet and windy.
Because we are -- on cotton-swaddled tippy-toe -- engaged in a veeeery subtle, rear-guard action.
Trying to respectably sidle our stately way in the general direction of the fire-door before we are dribbled to the curb like so many belligerent drunks after closing time is sounded and the lights come up.
Former Marine Corps General Bernard Trainor (ret.) and his writing partner Michael Gordon (previous collaborators on “The General's War: The Inside Story of the Conflict in the Gulf”) on “Meet the Press” discuss their book, “Cobra II: The Inside Story of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq”.
These are not children ignorantly dancing out “ashes, ashes, all fall down” to cope with the horror they face; these are the sober judgments of men who would clearly rather have been wrong in their analysis.
So to what failings do General Trainor and Michael Gordon ascribe the Iraqi Debacle?
They lay out the key failures thusly:
First, this Administration consistently and completely ignored any inconvenient truths that conflicted with their ideology.
Second, this Administration thought they were playing at Risk or Stratego [my phrase]: If you take the King and the Big City, you have won. This was nonsense. Baghdad wasn’t the “center of gravity.” The whole Sunni Triangle was the pivot on which the war turned.
Third, it turns out that the elements on which all of that gold-pressed latinum, "slam dunk" pre-war intel was built – down to the tasking of forty (four-oh) Cruise missiles to bomb the Hell out of a nonexistent bunker where Saddam was supposed to be, in a town that he had not visited in years – were just so many beer farts and nodules of wishful thinking.
Fourth, from Day One, Bushies sneered at any idea of “nation-building” anywhere. Recall that during the 2000 election, Bush ran on his contempt for any notion of marching into other countries and reformatting their governments. They mocked the Clinton Administration for suggesting that nation-building was ever a national necessity. Hell, they mocked the Clintons for not clocking out at 3:00 every afternoon and working on weekends. Eerily like every other event in Dubya’s lazy, incompetent, privileged life, he simply did not want to do the hard thinking of planning this motherfucker out, and then doing the hard work and heavy lifting of actually following through on making it work.
Too much like homework, I suppose.
And so, wild guess; how do you suppose an Administration that ridiculed the whole notion of “potatoes” did when it came to making potato pancakes?
Fifth, because they didn’t want to do nation building, they conjured up a fantasy where Iraq would be a turn-key operation they could run on the cheap. Maybe even turn a profit. In Saddam Hussein, Daddy Bush willed Dubya an all-purposed Boogie Man that could be trotted out to scare the Mole Rat People into submission whenever the going got tough, and Dubya’s handlers decided to go all-in for the Big Score on that line of credit before the dust from the collapse of the World Trade Center had even settled.
They would knock off the Bad Man, install a friendly government, draw down the troops to less that 30,000, and walk away in a blaze of flashbulbs, “Mission Accomplished” parades…and most importantly, a Teflon-Coated One Party Oligarchy ruling America forever and ever.
Of course this was straight-up delusional thinking – murderously, disastrously delusional thinking – but what are the Republicans but a party founded on just that: stupidity, wishful thinking, a deranged ideology, the ferocious suppression of the Rational Gag Reflex and a giddy eagerness to slime and slander all opposition as weak and traitorous.
Sixth, Donald Fucking Rumsfeld. Our own slick-pated Gordon Gekko gone to seed. Our CEO of Defense, trying to “run” the military like “Chainsaw” Al Dunlap “ran” Sunbeam. Gut the place, fire every other person, and fill in the gaps with the worst kind of drunken promises of the how it’ll all work out if everyone just works smarter and we use a lotta robots.
A conniving pimp full of wild talk, looking for the cheapest possible route to his idea of victory, and to get there he happily embraces a string of reckless, foolish fantasies that have gotten Americans killed and has bled our treasure into the sands of faraway lands.
When asked whether or not the military “pushed back” hard enough, part of the answer was that Rummy’s “management style” is “relentless”. That he will just grind you down to pulp with questions.
How well and intimately we who work for a living know this style of boss.
The one who will grimly slant-drill away until he finds something you don’t know, throw up his hands and say, “Well, see? How can I possibly trust your judgment when you obviously have no idea what you are talking about!” and dismiss your honest and serious objections out-of-hand.
And for those of you s-l-o-w children out there who think this actually sounds like a good way to run a business, remember that anyone can make anyone else look like an idiot if you just cross-examine them to a level of fiddling detail that they can’t possible know and then sneer at them for being uninformed.
Because running an organization – large or small – as the Chief Inquisitor ONLY works when it cuts both ways. When everyone -- even your very bestest buddy -- goes under the microscope. When everyone’s cherished ideas and best intel – and not just those of people that disagree with you -- is scrutinized for Mad Sacred Cow Disease down to the molecular level.
Does anyone in full possession of their faculties still seriously suggest that partisan, pro-Invasion whores like Ahmed Chalabi and “Curveball” ever got the kind of relentless sandblasting from Rummy and extra-special, repeated personal visits from the Vice President to challenge every assumption and check every figure down to nine decimals that the Administration meted out to those who thought that, just maybe, going into Iraq was a bad idea?
Does anyone still even bother to pretend that we wouldn’t be chasing the Mighty Morphin’ Casus Belli three years after we invaded a sovereign nation if the ratty tissue of full-tilt, “Bring ‘em on” pro-Invasion lies had been hit with the same blowtorch that greeted everyone who counseled caution?
And what happens when Relentless Reality finally comes thundering down like the wrath of God to smash Rummy’s, and Dubya’s and Cheney’s ridiculous fantasies to flinders?
C’mon, haven’t you been paying attention?
The Princes of Personal Responsibility will do what they have done every day of this worthless Administration: Blame Everyone Else.
Everyone else under the Sun but themselves and their Cuckoo Bananas dogma.
Throw the staff under the bus and whine that they weren’t better advised: blame the little people they terrorized into silence for not warning them better.
Blame the Dems.
Blame the prostrate Press.
Blame Brownie.
Blame FISA.
Blame the queers.
Blame Hugo Chavez.
Blame condoms.
Blame the "feminazis."
Blame the ACLU.
Blame Liberal Judges.
Blame the “elites”, by which they apparently mean anyone who can read without moving their lips and count to twenty without taking off their socks.
Blame Clinton. Any Clinton.
Blame Hollywood.
Blame taxes.
Blame Darwin. And Newton. And Galileo.
Blame brown people. Anywhere. Everywhere.
Blame everyone who was screaming “Fire!” while the coming conflagration -- that you created by briskly rubbing stupid ideas together -- was containable.
Blame the very people Emperor Dewars slimed and kicked to the curb for daring pointing out that the Princes of Personal Responsibility were charting a course off the edge of the world, using Richard Perle’s febrile wet dreams as their sextant and Ahmed Chalabi’s poo hole as their North Star.
Because in the end it always comes down to the same template, repeated over and over again: A Confederacy of Dunces -- ignorant, arrogant, superstitious people that you probably know better under their brand name of “The Republican Party” – who hate science, fear causality, and shun like a barb-wire catheter the idea that they themselves will ever be objectively measured in the same way and using the same standards by which they demand that everyone else be judged.
And since there is no way around the fact that Reality will eventually get up everyone’s skirt and have its merry way with people that keep insisting that up is down and black, the Mole Rat people can be always predictably relied on to retreat to the one, last fastness that they believe they can defend forever.
Fortress Magical Thinking; that big, imbecile edifice at the corner of Fundy Avenue and Neocon Way.
It is the supreme irony of this Party of swaggering paleo-libertarians that they have become – in actual fact – a grotesque parody of the rogue’s gallery of Evil Collectivist Villains out of every, turgid Ayn Rand novel. The anti-Science, anti-reason marauders who believe if they screw the testicle-clamps on hard enough and use a car-battery massive enough, they can simply torture Truth and Physics into doing whatever monkey-dancing back-flips might amuse them today.
And because the difference between the Heaven’s Gate Cult and the Party of God is not one of kind, but only of degree, when you pledge yourself to the Republican Fraternity in the Dark Age of Dubya, your are eventually required to take sides against Reality itself.
Which is why the GOP Phalanxes out spreading the Good Word today looked so squirmily uncomfortable.
Like they were trying to shit out a 500 lb. block of ground glass and swords.
Because, if you live by Magical Thinking, you die by it also.
When your hold on power depends on breaking every instrument and extinguishing every candle by which your true course can be gauged, you end up – faster that you ever dreamed possible – on that darkling plain full of “ignorant armies” clashing by night.
Swearing by the Deathgod that you are now forced to worship that the world itself turns on the Word of the Dear Leader, and that the only reason his plans have failed is the Evil Countermagic of the Bad Thoughts of his enemies.
America -- for all of our sins and imperfections -- used to be fiercely proud of our heritage as a Child of the Enlightenment. An experiment in putting the absurd and dangerous Dark Age artifacts of the Divine Rights of Kings and the Infallibility of Popes behind us and letting Reason and Compromise remake the world.
This Republic of Reason has always been the promise of America. And it is precisely this foundational vision of our purpose and future the Republican Party now profoundly rejects and seeks to replace with an Empire of Mysticism, Ignorance and Fear.
Proving, yet again, that in the Age of Dubya, you can either be a Good American, or a Good Republican, but you can no longer be both.
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What on earth are you talking about? Iraq? You might as well talk about tactics employed in the trojan war. The real issue, the only issue-- if you really care about the security of America-- is Iran. Look, over there, scary nukes, Iran. Say it again, Iran, Iran Iran.....
mad props drifty m'boy. your writing style is starting to swoop and crackle like the beloved dr. thompson. rage on.
Watched it all yesterday. Cheered for Feingold, booed Frist. Then happily trotted out to buy Cobra ll, only to discover it will not be released until Tuesday (March 14)
It's so much more fun to read your take on the Sunday shows than to have to suffer through them.
It's amazing how long the "Confederacy of Dunces" has been able to stave off the verdict of reality with only two weapons: control of the media and control of the voting processes. Of course reality will break through eventually, but I fear it will be too late to save the USA by then; maybe the rest of the West can still be salvaged.
"Evil Collectivist Villains"; yep, it's amazing how today's GOP (aka the Elephascist Party) has come to resemble the old Soviet Communist Party: the overblown military spending, the neglect of the need to maintain a strong economy (shipping the jobs overseas, for example), and the belief that propaganda, vote fraud, and police-state tactics can keep them in power forever. I hope, probably in vain, that a sufficient number of GOPhers will have "Gorbachev moments"--that is, they will realize that the system is unsustainable.
To continue on the resemblance of today's GOP/conservative movement to the Commies: let us remember that many prominent "neoconservative" thinkers (pardon the oxymoron) are disgruntled former Commies of the Trotskyite sect. They abandoned their Communist substance, but not their totalitarian style.
As for magical thinking, if I understand the term as skeptics use it (and I did Google it and look up the term at the "skepdic", site so if anybody wants to start cawing "straw man, straw man" like a parrot on crytal meth, they can save that for another time), anyone who believes in a spiritual dimension of reality as we experience it could be called a "magical thinker". But being such a "magical thinker" doesn't necessarily condemn one to clinging to a course of action which is not bringing anything remotely approaching the stated desired results. In fact, in my brand of "magical thinking", if what you're doing is not bringing you anything you think that you want, then that means what you thought you wanted wasn't spiritually appropriate for you, and continuing to pursue it will only bring you deepening misery because that's what happens when you go up against the spiritual component of reality.
Rockin' post, Drifty. As the train wreck of the republican junta continues to pile up, let the blame games begin. Act like the truth wasn't being screamed at you, year after year, like you couldn't possibly have known, like an adminstration that destroys dissenters can't be helped if it suffers from myopia.
I beg to differ on one thing, though. We have never been a Child of the Enlightenment. We burned witches and we emancipated slaves six decades after Britain did. We've always been the idiot stepchild of the Enlightenment, a home for fundies who fled Europe to practice their religion in the New World. They were industrious people, our ancestors, but Enlightened they were not, nor are they now.
"Barb-wire catheter"? Yow! My legs are gonna be crossed for weeks after reading that one, driftglass. Your take on the Sunday morning bloviators is always a joy to read.
Now, please excuse me while I go all pedantic:
Guys, the witchcraft craze ended here long before the establishment of the Republic, sooner, as a matter of fact, than it did in Europe. The miniscule number of witchcraft prosecutions in these colonies was a pale reflection of what was going on overseas at the time (see: Thirty Years War). The witchcraft craze ended with the beginning of the Enlightenment. In fact, revulsion at the insane excesses of those times surely inspired the Enlightenment.
This isn't to say the Massachusetts Elders were a kindly, tolerant bunch, or that this nation doesn't have major sins to expiate from before and after the Revolution. But things are a bit more complicated than glib statements like "We're the idiot step-child of the Enlightenment".
When it comes to human rights, the Enlightenment/Age of Reason/whatever-you-want-to-call-it has always been a concept that's more honored in the breach. While people generally have no problem with the material products of others' reasoning, when it comes to applying reason to their own traditions and dearly-held prejudices, it's an entirely different story.
In that sense, the Enlightenment has always been more of a promise than a reality, regardless of geographical location.
Sure, England outlawed slavery 60 years before we did (and admittedly, a good deal more painlessly). Sometime, though, you really ought to read up a bit on what life at that time was like for the common people in Britain, or how their "enlightened" elites dealt with the Potato Famine in Ireland.
There are many words you could use to describe the history of European colonialism, but "enlightened" usually isn't one of them. Just in the last century, these paragons of Reason were responsible for the unprecedented slaughter and destruction of two world wars.
So let's give the "idiot step-child" stuff a rest, shall we?
rosebudear:
Listen, Bunky, I was pointing out one obvious historical non sequiter, and objecting to an overly broad characterization. Unlike yourself, I was doing so politely.
If you don't like being reminded of historical facts, that's your problem. And judging by those childish "You think you're smarter than everybody else!" remarks, it's a major problem.
I don't see how anyone could say it's "smugly arrogant" to point out that the West as a whole -- not just this country -- has largely betrayed the ideals of the Enlightenment. Remember what Gandhi said about "Western Civilization"?
If stating that reality offends you, then I would like to politely invite you to go jump up a hog's butt and grab a ham sandwich.
Is that down-to-earth enough for you?
"Where was I not being polite?"
Read your own post, jackass:
"Wow. I'm sorry. You're so much smarter than us. Sorry."
"Let's give smug arrogant hubris a rest, shall we?"
Tell me: How long have you had these problems with reading comprehension?
And one more thing:
That "Dems eating their own" crack is snivelling bullshit. I objected to a certain phrase, and gave some factual examples why I thought it was overly simplistic.
I wasn't calling names, and implying someone may be ignorant of certain facts is NOT the same as calling them stupid.
I don't know what set you off -- and frankly, I don't care. If you're going to argue with what I said, fine, but at least take the time and trouble to formulate a coherent reply, including facts that contradict me.
But "Wow. I'm sorry. You're so much smarter than us. Sorry." is not considered a valid argument anywhere outside of the third grade.
HEY! Settle down!
Yeah, you're right, mr. natural.
I guess I just have a hard time dealing with someone who directly and grossly insults me, then acts all hurt that I took offense. I mean, come on: Lecturing me about MY rudeness, after comments like that?
Sorry to be a thread-killer. Go ahead and delete this ridiculous squabble if you'd like, driftglass: It's no skin off my back.
DON'T MAKE ME COME UP THERE!:P
prof fate,
What's a little squabble? We're Liberals, for God's sake. Fighting is what we do :-)
To one and all,
First, sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner. My work sked really is just inhuman.
And I don't censor for getting het up over things we care about, unless it just pisses me off past past my red line, or someone threatens GBH, and so forth.
Having read all of the above, I would add that, however poorly we have acted as a nation (And sometimes we have act VERY poorly. Barbarically, in fact.) the rectifyer that sloooowly remediates the situation is almost always our own words.
Dr. King often did not have to go any further that our own, unkept national promises to find the key to shaming us into action.
When we become a nation that can look at its own foundational rhetoric and say, fuck it, we just don't give a shit about that stuff anymore and walk away, then we are lost.
On that day, our dirty, imperfect soul is lost.
But until then, if a bare majority of us still redden with embarassment at the idea that we are shaming our founding ideals, there is hope.
I believe passionately that we do not fight for the people we were or are; we fight for the people we might one day become. we fight our potential to live up to a vision that is fine and just and noble.
And that is also a long, slogging battle full of defeats and losses that covers generations.
I think it's a battle well worth fighting, and of all the possible causes to fight for, the one most worth fighting.
But you know me: Little Drifty Sunshine ;-)
If I had a Canadian fiancee, I might prefer to move to Canada after I married her.---IBW
Oh, good grief! I was going to leave it at that, and not say another word, but this is just too much:
If *I* want to make nice and be friends?!?
rosebuddear, I'm very sorry for you and your fiance, but my Gawd, you are infuriating!
Tell you what, if you really want peace, then please just give a straight answer to a simple question: If someone responded to a comment you made, using exactly the same language that you used with me, are you honestly telling us that you wouldn't be offended?
You're welcome to disagree with anything I say -- that comes with the territory. But if we're really "on the same side", I don't think it's at all unreasonable to expect a slightly more cogent objection than "You're a stuck-up smarty-pants!"
Especially from someone who claims to be 53 years old.
Look, you can call it my "high horse" if you want, but I've devoted a fair amount of time over the last 30 years to studying history in general, and the Witchcraft Craze in Europe and the colonies in particular. (IMO, the WC is the single most perfect example of group dementia in recorded history.) So maybe there's some justification for thinking that I'm a bit better informed about some of these subjects than your average poster here.
But I'm not stupid enough to believe that being slightly more knowledgeable in one arcane area of history necessarily makes me smarter than anyone. Except for the thankfully rare troll, many of the folks who hang out here -- including our host -- are scary smart, and the rest are no dummies, either.
I just felt that citing witchcraft persecutions in early colonial New England as some kind of original sin and historical explanation for our current bumper crop of Fundie Fascists doesn't make much sense, because Europe went through much worse, and it lasted much longer.
You simply cannot compare the carnage wrought over there to what happened here, horrible as it was.
A grand total of twenty colonists lost their lives to this insanity, and the trials ended almost a hundred years before we became a Republic.
BTW, none of the Salem witches were burned: They were hung. Nasty, for sure, but much quicker and certainly less painful than being burned alive in the traditional European fashion. (Unless you confessed, in which case the authorities might be merciful enough to strangle you before they lit the fire.)
Cotton Mather was a credulous, superstitious old bastard, but for sheer quintessence of opportunistic evil, look up the history of a guy named Matthew Hopkins, the self-styled "Witchfinder General" of Tudor England.
As for this country being the "idiot step-child of the Enlightenment", I can only repeat that, if you judge them by their actions, we're hardly unique in that category. If Europe is a more "enlightened" place than the U.S. -- and it is, in many respects -- it's because they've had their faces repeatedly rubbed in the alternative, by centuries of bloody warfare, oppression and revolution.
rosebuddear:
Thank you for your honesty. Apology accepted, and my apologies for letting my anger get the best of me.
Still, if the way I phrased that first post was offensive to bitterharvest, then let him say so -- and I'll apologize. This isn't your blog, and AFAIK, our host has yet to appoint you his official Arbiter of Rudeness, and spokesperson for the offended who don't speak up for themselves.
Maybe it would have been nicer of me to have called bitterharvest's statement "facile" instead of "glib". I didn't say "dishonest" because I believed he was sincere in what he was saying.
I've already gone over why the witch-burning argument ignores some historical realities; I'd just like to add that by modern standards, virtually all Europeans of the 16th and 17th Centuries were cruelly intolerant religious fanatics, regardless of their flavor of Christianity.
Anyway, I could be misinterpreting what bitterharvest wrote, but to me it sounded like he was holding up England as a counter-example to our unenlightened idiocy, because they abolished slavery 60 years before we managed to.
Ok, fair enough... I suppose it's pointless to speculate now on whether the British would have had quite so easy a time of it, if, say, half of Great Britain itself had been "slave parishes" and half free.
(BTW: I'm not trying to do some kind of "perfidious Albion" riff here. I've been a confirmed Anglophile since my inaugural post-pubescent crush on Diana Rigg, as the sleekly dangerous, leather-clad Mrs. Peel.)
Regardless, I never said bitterharvest was "dumb" for making that "idiot step-child" remark. "Uninformed", well, maybe, but there's no inherent shame in that: No one can know everything there is to know.
I at least did him the courtesy to imply that with a bit more knowledge he might modify his opinion.
And let's face it, what it was like to be a member of Regency and early Victorian England's lower classes is kind of an obscure subject. The closest appreciation most people get is by way of Dickens, and usually not by reading him. Eloquent as Dickens was in his abhorrence of the workhouses and the way "justice" was meted out to the poor, he would have alienated his middle-class audience if he'd really told it like it was.
Yes, the British abolished slavery 60 years before we did, but we're still talking about a society that was rigidly hierarchical, and ruthlessly brutal when it came to enforcing the privileges of their elites. If you weren't lucky enough to be one of the aristocracy or middle class, your life was literally worth the price of a loaf of bread.
Which, if you think about it, was not all that different from the Antebellum South.
Look at the Potato Famine, where the uber-wealthy absentee British owners of Ireland gave its Catholic peasantry two choices: leave or starve to death. They even developed a horse-powered machine to efficiently demolish the peasants' cottages in a matter of minutes, no doubt to help them "make the right decision".
The Brits were perfectly willing to destroy a thriving textile industry in India -- with all kinds of awful consequences for the Indians -- to ensure the profits of mill owners in Manchester. Would the Mutiny have been so widespread and vicious, if they were such kindly sahibs? And we won't even go into the tactics they used to put it down.
Which is why I'm a bit skeptical about being able to easily judge where the U.S. or Great Britain falls, on some absolute scale of national enlightenment. I think it's more accurate to say that each nation's sins are perculiar to its historical development.
Sorry for droning on and on; I better bug out now, before I start to froth at the mouth and fall over backwards. ;-)
rosebuddear:
Peace, then.
And I do hope your fiance gets his problem with the INS worked out.
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