Thursday, November 19, 2015

Il Douche

Trump Says He 'Would Certainly Implement' Muslim Database

NEWTON, Iowa — Donald Trump "would certainly implement" a database system tracking Muslims in the United States, the Republican front-runner told NBC News on Thursday night.

"I would certainly implement that. Absolutely," Trump said in Newton, Iowa, in between campaign town halls.

"There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases," he added. "We should have a lot of systems."

When asked whether Muslims are legally obligated to sign into the database, Trump responded, "They have to be — they have to be."

Later, Trump was repeatedly asked to explain the difference between requiring Muslim to enter a database and the requirement the Jews register in Nazi Germany.

He responded four times by simply saying, "You tell me."
And his proud, all-Murrican blackshirts:
Trump rises in wake of Paris attacks

Donald Trump has gained political strength since the Paris terrorist attacks last Friday, according to most of the polls released in the aftermath.

Trump’s gains show him once again confounding Beltway wisdom, where the widespread view was that such a grave event would lead voters to look toward White House candidates who are purportedly more mature and sophisticated than the erstwhile star of “The Apprentice.”

Instead, it seems that Republican voters have found themselves drawn to Trump’s emphatic rhetoric. “You have voters who are saying loudly and clearly that they want a strong leader to run our country, and that leader is Mr. Trump,” the business mogul’s campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, told The Hill. “Some of the other candidates didn’t have that vision. ... They have not had the foresight to predict these problems.”
The phrase "Beltway wisdom" needs to be welded into an oil drum and sunk once and for all into the deep, deep sea.


Kaye said...

I do believe that as bad as Trump is, the candidate for the republicans will ultimately be Ted Cruz - the really evil one.

Ethree1967 said...

Greg Sargent actually agreed with the sentiment this morning:

If you squint your eyes just right, that is...

Jerry B said...

What do you say to a man who has no Rubicon to cross?

trgahan said...

World leaders like Putin must be having wet dreams about Trump getting into office and the American conservative base getting exactly what it wants.

Paul Wartenberg said...

Donald Trump is speaking to the direct actual world-view of the average Republican voter. Which is itself horrifying that he's getting around 30 percent support of those voters who appeal to that open hatred and fear of The Other.

We are facing the "It Can't Happen Here" scenario: where a Far Right Populist figure rides upon a wave of low-and-middle-income class resentment - on a fascist platform of promised indulgences to true believers and punishments for those who "threaten" the American Way Of Life - into a shot at the White House. This isn't fiction: this isn't a "what if?" and it's not fear-mongering on my part. For all the other times we've had the possibility of a far right demagogue winning the White House - Bush the Lesser is the closest we've come - there was at least the reality that those in power would not succumb to the worst instincts (even Bush for all the horrors of the Iraq war had his limits: even he didn't demonize Muslims or immigrants).

Trump is a disaster beyond any other previous threats to our republican-democratic form of government. He will be worse than Nixon, more corrupt than Harding, more destructive than Andrew Jackson.

Robt said...

Paul Wartenberg said...

We are facing the "It Can't Happen Here" scenario: where a Far Right Populist figure rides upon a wave of low-and-middle-income class resentment - on a fascist platform ;;
. This isn't fiction: this isn't a "what if?" and it's not fear-mongering on my part.

Like you, many see and hear this. There are still too many that have the ability to decode much of the right in these times that haven't paid attention (yet). Trump hasn't won the nomination. IF not Trump who hides his fascism in public. There is Cruz, Carson and the others who will carry the urine bucket in Trump's absence.
It is ugly, and what is worse is talking to some of the ugly people that support him. Instead of stick to the man, they want to hang the NEgro, stone to death the the gay, more than shun the non Christian (like them), and put the female back in the bottle.
Be advised, the Trump coat tails for congress, Governors, State House seats are as alarming.
Will the GOP attempt to reel it in for the General election, how? Would they really want to if they believe they can win with it?
As sure as you can look up Gerrymandering or voter suppression. The answer is yes.
One of Trump's supporters raised the Soros money he is fighting against, As the Koch's become the American Putin Brothers.
I just felt the need to let you know, you are not alone in that rise of a new form of fascism.
Libertarian-totalitarian-fascism. If I read my " ISMs " correctly.

Kathleen O'Neill said...

@Paul Wartenburg @Robt

It disturbs me to no end that too many "liberals" do not get this. And that "The Pures" will not vote. These are perilous times and I must admit to fear.

Also, I think Cruz is much worst than Trump.

Robt said...

Some optimistic nourishment'
Fear, as all emotions are a good natural sense us humans possess. We use them less ( for their natural intent) than our ancestors.
I agree the times are perilous. More than it was for Jefferson, Adams, Franklin and so many others as the English offered rewards for their capture?
There was another time in history when,
Italy got Mussolini.
Japan got Hirohito and Tojo.
Spain got General Franco.
U.S.S.R. got Joseph Stalin.
Chia got Mao Zedong.
Germany got Adolph Hitler.
Who did America get----Franklin Roosevelt !

I forgot where I read the report that spoke to Mitt Romney lost appx 24% of hust the Latino vote. Might have to do with his, "Self Deport tour". It went on to state Trump has already lost apprx 48% of the Latino vote. Liberal, progressive, caring human being alike. Trump's Yin is causing a rise in the Yang. Do not think too many GOP'ers are expected to vote for him when he says he will raise taxes (on Hedge fund managers). Those Hedge'rs are going to spend $ against him. They may try to help and buy Hillary influence.
I did survive 8 years of GW Bush--I mean Cheney and the entire crime family.
As you say,
we are at a point where America (Americans specifically) can move to a higher life. Can they scare it out of us? Will Trump ride that anger vote?
Anger and fear are powerful. Trump's lead is because of GOP primary anger with their own party establishment/

Think of this,
Why did the nastiest corrupt Governor Walker go NO where in his own party?
This is something that can provide some very warm sun rays carrying more than hope.

It is probably fear that turns to anger when I watch our House of Reps turn over the congress to Israeli Netanyahu to denigrate our sitting American President and they applaud him..!
The President asked Congress some time ago for war powers to prosecute terrorists. The GOP controlled House has not to this day brought it to the floor for a vote. As they declare the President weak and feeble.
Who brought K Street to Wash, D.C.? Who brought Citizens United to the SCOTUS and who was there for the decision to applaud the 5 justice rule of unruliness? Anyone that does not see this president's Use of military in last resort is not looking.
There is nothing wrong with asking for assurance of vetting refugees. But not water boarding them.
The self proclaimed trustees of the Constitution right now are all telling us that when they are president they will be a dictator and the hell with the Constitution.
Wow, I am so sorry. Must be that caffeine. This came out so fast and went so long.
Let that fear (or concern) restlessness turn to action,
Let me ask, do you feel all these GOP issues of late will sell in the General election? To a majority? What sort of X-mas paper with cover that smell they wrap as a gift to us?

Dave McCarthy said...

here's a quote from Trump from many moons ago, in response to some cipher at a "town hall meeting" blathering about how Obama is a Muslim, and there are Muslims training in the US.

“We’re going to be looking at a lot of different things, and you know a lot of people are saying that and a lot of people are saying that bad things are happening out there; we’re going to be looking at that and plenty of other things.”

However, it doesn't matter what the subject matter is, this is the sub literate level at which Trump conducts his speechifying, and we're all the worse for the fact that he has not been laughed off the public stage...