Wednesday, July 11, 2012
How Was I to Know
She was with the Russians, too?
In today's episode of "Who's letting driftglass down now?" I find myself very disappointed with Ms. Kathleen Hall-Jamieson.
Very, very disappointed, especially because there is so much that is unimpeachably admirable about Ms. Hall-Jamieson's body of work, so allow me to back up a few hundred miles and explain by my disappointment by way of briefly (since I am told that the posts of Successful Bloggers should never exceed one paragraph and I am way over my limit already) explicating Fake Centrism's Iron Triangle.
To start with, here is the audio from her appearance on Neal Conan's Centrist Tent Show that hacked me off:
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Bravo, as usual. NPR has the balance disease, and has had it for quite a long time--probably at least since the Rethugs in Congress started threatening the money stream.
I understand your disappointment; however, I have never found Ms Hall-Jameison's analysis or positions very compelling. She is a self-styled Cassandra without much in the way of truth or trenchant prophecy to reveal. She and her "research" have always struck me as backward looking and not particularly well researched. The paradigm that "reasonableness" is a natural human process that will prevail if all the "facts" are dispassionately presented to the "public" is belied by all recorded history. The record of human conduct, especially political conduct, is that "reasonableness" is the least motivating of all political strategies. If "reasonableness" were the primary motivating instinct in human political interaction then President Adlai Stevenson would easily have beaten Eisenhower and Nixon would never have beaten the "Pink Lady."
David Brooks is a shill to a fatuous public that thinks voting is their only civic responsibility and a bothersome one at at that, willfully ignorant and looking for an easy set of solutions to ever more complex problems, they are ripe for the simple scapegoating that is American politics.
It is not an "honest" politician that we need now, you could hardly call any of the great political actors in history what the average person calls "honest," we need a highly skilled, experienced political leadership with the vision to know that true political achievement does not come from embracing the "art of the possible," but from the ability to make what seems impossible a goal that the public believes you can help them achieve.
The Neal Conason's and David Brook's of the world will always be with us, but so will the possibilities of great movements and leadership; hopefully, "the arc of history does bend toward justice," and we can continue to move with it.
I love your work. Your criticism is pointed and well thought out and if I wasn't so broke, I'd definitely "pay the effing writer," as it is I can only pay you the compliment of reading and appreciating your work.
No doubt.
Still, down here in Redstateville Georgia I am quite certain that people's political beliefs are energized by one immutable truth: Obama is a negro.
And my taxes spent on govt welfare are taxes illegally spent upon reparations for slavery.
OK, down here in Redstateville Georgia we operate on two immutable truths.
I think this is almost exactly right - the one thing I might try to weave in the emotional/structural/financial underpinning of this behavior. At the end of the day, many of these folks are paid rather well and have their positions largely based on their ability not to piss off too many people and/or their family connections. I believe that many of them know how tenuous their positions really are, and truly despise anyone who attempts to change anything or rock the boat.
It is this fear of being exposed, of having to justify themselves that hangs over the entire discussion like a mist. In their world, it seems like the easiest path to success is to buy into the big lie, no matter its consequences to the republic. Any number of individuals have been right and are never heard from again (or are not invited onto the discussions, which is how they get their next book deal or whatever). Meanwhile, people who have been materially wrong about just about everything for the better part of 25 years keep getting booked, keep selling columns, and so on. I think the question we have to answer as a community is how do we make being correct about things matter again to these folks?
I stopped listening to Bill Moyers because he has Kathleen Hall Jamieson on his show so often. You never know when you'll be subjected to her blather. She may be a secret conservative trying to poison the dialog (poor to non-existent as it is) by whispering her poison in liberal ears Gríma Wormtongue-style. You hit all the high points about her in your excellent post. Wormtongue/Hall-Jamieson and her ilk play right into the hands of propagandists and liars.
NPR seems wothless to me. I can get conservative news anywhere; why go to NPR for it? Back in its salad days it was a different matter, but now it is irrelevant. You constantly get both-sides-do-it on NPR and worse. They have sold out.
I wish there was a liberal billionaire out there some where who would fund a media group dedicated to reporting the truth about issues, and not this goddamned balance crap. I predict his money would come back to him many times over because there is a hunger to hear the truth in America. People are sick of lies and propaganda.
I would like to cancel my membership in the human race. I no longer want to be part of the hominid family, as this is apparently very controversial, and I don't want to offend anybody, like those nasty extremists on both sides do. But as Mr. Conan assures me that evolution is just a "values issue", I imagine a transfer to a nicer and less divisive species should be a mere formality?
That's what you get for listening to NPR. sigh. I gave up years ago, except to accidentally turn on "all things belabored" in my car and then, after a few choice adjectives, turn off the radio.
The conservatives in congress really have NPR and PBS running scared.
And don't diss Bill Moyers too hard - I saw a clip of him recently with Matt Taibbi and Yves Smith... and he has had Bill Black on a couple of times.
"they're not associated with the Republican Party"
someone needs to read the platform of the texas gop.
Thank you so much for calling this out. I heard it live on my car radio and nearly drove up a utility pole.
I only ever listen to NPR in the car any more (I can't stand commercials) but I learned long ago that it's safer to turn the radio off when Neal Conan comes on. Three minutes of listening to what Driftglass described (which is every Neal Conan show) would send me hurtling at top speed into a bridge abutment.
I'm going to keep this focus on Kathleen Hall-Jamieson. I listen to her several time and when breaking it down, she literally advertises for Republicans and pushes an idea that politicians need to be honest without journalist.
I took something different from it, well not too different. She is in fact a Russian spy. Her entire purpose is to trick those of us who believe in the truth and objective facts to lean towards this soft lazy journalism. This lady is dangerous and she and her entire organization should have NO credibility. In short, she's a liar.
In some ways she managed to trick you to a very small degree. How she tricked us is simply by avoiding to answer the question Moyer asked. She always goes into what she hope for politicians should do.. when the question was "Do they lie to us".
I also noticed an interesting pattern:
1) She talks about republicans first, then leans towards Obama.
2) When she talks about republicans, she makes an effort to let us know about their position and ignores Obamas (be easier if she never went into detail)
3) She always from the republican point of view.
For example when she talked about the most effective advertisement, noticed the words she used to describe them. Mitt Romney ad feature real people.. Obama takes a 'small' sentence. Mitt Romney needs to question Obama, Obama's ad was affected because of Mitt's tone.
Going through that interview, people would know more about the republican position and trying to get us to watch the debates. She tries to focus on what both sides agree on. She literally says "One of the really important things about debates that people don't notice is that if two can agree on something" So if both Obama and Mitt believe the world is really flat, she's secretly trying to tell us to believe in that.
Places like FactCheck tries to trick us into believing both sides are equal and avoid the bigger context of the situation. She literally tries to bury the truth that the Obama Campaign make efforts to correct their flaws and the Romney doesn't give a damn
I'm not surprise she's a spy, I'm more surprise on how systematic she play her roll. The only time she gives credit to the Dem is with Clinton's speech (which is about how republicans are liars), but only in passing to say Obama isn't as honest.
I wish to apologize for my previous comment. I was under the impression you were talking about the same episode i saw last week and most of my comments were about that, on how the well is being poison.
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