Friday, January 02, 2009

Government By Whim


"In politics...never retreat, never retract...never admit a mistake."
-- Napoleon Bonaparte

Over at HuffPo, Jane Hamsher gets it right...

Harry Reid's back is against the wall.

Founder, FireDogLake.com
Posted January 2, 2009 | 12:30 PM (EST)

...
[Harry Reid] thinks that if he doesn't oppose Rod Blagojevich's appointment of Roland Burris to fill Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat, John Cornyn and the Republicans will make the Democrats wear Blago around their necks for the rest of their natural lives.

And on that count, he's probably right.

But the decisions Reid is making right now are politically motivated, with little regard for the law. And the Democrats are only in this position, and looking so compromised, because of bad decisions Reid has made in the past.

How will it look if the Sergent-At-Arms bars Burris from the Senate floor, but did nothing to Harriet Miers and Karl Rove when they defied Senate subpoenas?

How will it look if they refuse to accept Burris into the Democratic Caucus after having accepted Joe Lieberman, who spent years enabling Bush administration crime and corruption as Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee?

How does it look to be screaming about Burris's "taint" when they did nothing for decades about Ted Stevens, and gave him a standing ovation even after he'd been convicted? Or for that matter, their inaction with regard to Larry Craig?

How does it look now that Reid is manipulating Senate procedure to exclude Burris, but simply shrugged his shoulders over Samuel Alito, warrantless wiretapping and the Military Commissions Act?

...but does not carry her argument quite far enough.

This is failure at every level.

It is failure of the Illinois Democratic Party that Lil' Rod was ever permitted to come within styling-mousse distance of the highest office in the State.


"In politics stupidity is not a handicap."
-- Napoleon Bonaparte


It is a cascade failure of the Illinois Republican Party, who have been so corrupt, tone-deaf and idea-starved for so many years that they cannot get their shit together long enough to mount serious opposition for any statewide offices. (These are the brain wizards who, when Golden Child Jack Ryan's candidacy imploded, pulled Alan Keyes out of the crazy box to run against Barack Obama. 'Cause, y'know, melanin.)

"Men are more easily governed through their vices
than through their virtues." -- Napoleon Bonaparte


It is primarily a failure of the Democratic-controlled legislative bodies at the state and federal level who were terrified that doing the right thing would cost them politically.

"A man will fight harder for his interests
than his rights." -- Napoleon Bonaparte


And what would the right thing have been?

To strip Blago of his appointment authority, and then hold a special election.

And why didn’t they do the right thing?

Because they wanted a sure thing. Because they didn’t trust the voters. Because the stink coming off of the open sewer of Blagojevich-style politics might very well be enough to drive voters to punish his Party by electing a Republican.

And losing that particular seat – the seat vacated by the wildly popular African American Democratic President Elect from the Bright Blue State of Illinois -- would not just be a loss; it would be a humiliation.

"I can no longer obey; I have tasted command,
and I cannot give it up." -- Napoleon Bonaparte


So rather than manning-up, taking their lumps, facing the real problem and the possibility of an embarrassing-but-not-fatal electoral reversal, national and state Democratic Party Leadership from Senate Majority Leader Reid, to the Illinois Secretary of State and Attorney General have instead been desperately bending themselves into the seventh dimension tossing out progressively weirder ad hoc workarounds, hoping that no one would notice that their “solutions” are illegal, ridiculous or both.

So now they’re all stuck with the prospect of offering the GOP and the national press this lovely tableaux:

A Capitol Hill cop blocking the Senate doorway George Wallace-style and preventing a legally appointed and credentialed African American man from being seated…

…as newly-appointed Senator Caroline breezes past the velvet rope to her reserved table in the Hart Senate Cafeteria because the one of the Kennedy family heirlooms is apparently the Bunny Key

to the front door of the Old White Guys Club…

…while the Democratic Party leadership -- which was willing to spend the next four years lovingly braiding the grizzled yam-sack mullet of their dear, close, personal friend Holy Joe Lieberman in exchange for a shot at cobbling together a McConnell-proof Senate – cowers in the Senate cloak room, hoping that somehow it’ll all just go away.

Sigh.

This is what happens when leaders at every level refuse to lead because leading is hard.

This is what happens when the makers and interpreters of the law decide that, when the rules won’t produce the political results they want, then fuck the rules; give the rules twenty bucks and a bus ticket out of town and fuggedaboutdit.

Christ Almighty, we’ve had eight years of that kind of thinking, and it nearly killed us. And if we’re going to pull this country out of the grave that Republicans have dug for us, we dare not sit quietly by studying the tips of our shoes as the Democratic Leadership stumbles their way into Act One, Scene One of the Obama Administration by showing their collective asses to the world, exhibiting the same contempt for the democratic process and the rule of law for which we on the Left have always been more than willing to call out Republicans.

Of course, on the upside, the amount of clean, rotational energy capable of being tapped from Abraham Lincoln spinning in his grave

will be more than enough to power every home, school, church, bar, mall, gummint building and office complex from Funk’s Grove to Navoo.



"I am sometimes a fox and sometimes a lion.
The whole secret of government lies in knowing
when to be the one or the other."
-- Napoleon Bonaparte

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Of some interest is that Jane Hamsher and her bloggers have worked long and hard to gin up a dogpile on Caroline Kennedy's sleazy, inexperienced, desire to be appointed to Hillary's old seat.
:o)

But for some reason, when Rod Blagojevich picks up an unspinnably corrupt, you-rub-my-dick-and-I'll-rub-yours hack to join him on team "political-hookers-r-us!"...

she comes down on the side of letting Blago hang this cozy little turd around the necks of the Senate, and Obama as well.

I disagree. Everyone supporting team Blago/Burris is saying, in effect:

"Fitz has nothing, and Blago's going to walk."

What will we do if Burris is seated and in 90 days, Fitz returns with an indictment that looks like the Chicago phone directory?

I promise you, folks, the people who want to see Roland Burris sitting in the Senate are smart republicans and stupid democrats.

And the legal niceties of whether or not the Senate has a say in this are just beginning.

Also, there is an incredible dogpile going on on Reid. My 2c, for once, he's done the right thing, in trying to stop Blagojevich from using the U.S. Senate for his jackoff rag.

No accident that Obama, himself, has weighed in against Burris' appointment. So far, I think it's his best moment since he was elected.

driftglass said...

tanbark,

Let me also add that some people forget the difference between the political process (impeachment, for example) and the criminal.

You can remove someone from office for actions that are not criminal (see Clinton, Bill) and put 'em in jail for offenses that would not necessarily bar them from office (see Stevens, Ted)

Worst of all, the procedures involved in a political hearing/trail can end up royally screwing up a criminal prosecution (see Contra, Iran) which may be one reason why Fitz has been so coy about what gets revealed and what stays under wraps.

Caoimhin Laochdha said...

For eight years, Senate Democrats have rolled over and played possum in the face of lawbreaking Reich-Wing Pig People while abdicating their constitutional duties to uphold the laws and protect our constitutional liberties and heritage.

Now is not the time for the Senate Democrats to flex their muscle (such as it is) by pulling a page out of the "lessons.learned.laws.don't.apply" playbook written by the GOP majorities. Of all the times for Sen Dems to start playing cute with -- or just plain ignoring as the GOP did for eight years -- the rule of law, Why Oh Why do it over an issue where they are only fighting themselves, leaving the GOP unscathed, while trying their hardest to deprive the caucus of another fucking vote!!! (Oh, wait, Harry Reid, never mind).

Burris is unworthy, sure, but no more so than 70 +/- other frightened, backward and congenitally corrupt class warriors and serial traitors to the U.S. Constitution now currently taking up space in the august chambers with the likes of Ted Stevens, David Vitter . . . However, "unworthiness" IS.COMPLETELY.IRRELEVANT. < < sigh > >

He guy is minimally "qualified" and was legally appointed, which is all that matters.

If they do not seat him, the Senate Democrats will deny the citizens & voters of Illinois their constitutional right to a U.S. Senator. Burris is coming to D.C. via the process adopted by the voters of the state and pursuant to the laws of the state of Illinois.

MEMO: To: Harry R. -- Illinios' Senators go to Washington D.C. with the laws we have on the books, not the process we wish we had.

Legal gymnastics, for pundits and Senators who want to play games with the words in Art 1 §5 makes cute political copy, and great grandstanding, but this is not a "close" or difficult legal issue. There is no legal basis for refusing Burris a seat absent a result oriented Bush v. Gore judicial activism or other equally offensive, & legally perverted, result-oriented constitutional evasion.

Seating Burris may be a shitty result, but it is the legal solution upon which we all agreed, as citizens, up front and at the beginning of this process. It's the process and result we own until either the Constitution and/or Illinois statutes are changed.

If Reid et al. don't like the result (hey join the f'ing club), then change the f'ing law. Don't just subvert, ignore or break the law, shit, didn't we campaign against that mentality?

slainte,
cl

Cirze said...

Oh Driftgod of blogtopia,

Thank you for your spyglass full of superb political dissection and commentary, surpassing anything available elsewhere.

May The Times (or some much better vehicle) come calling for your services.

We'll miss you, but you were always too fine a treat to keep secret for long.

The world awaits.

Cheers!

Life As I Know It Now said...

Burris is unworthy, sure, but no more so than 70 +/- other frightened, backward and congenitally corrupt class warriors and serial traitors to the U.S. Constitution now currently taking up space in the august chambers with the likes of Ted Stevens, David Vitter . . . However, "unworthiness" IS.COMPLETELY.IRRELEVANT. < < sigh > >

afuckingmen!!!

res ipsa loquitur said...

Amen, dg. After everything criminal thing that's gone on Harry Reid wants to go to the mattresses over this? With his own party? Please.

Blago is a mad dog, but last I checked, he was innocent until proven guilty. I'm for following the law here. If it turns out there was some Blago/Burris quid pro quo for the seat there are remedies. Meanwhile, Burris seems to have been duly appointed.

Michael Hart said...

Ahh; Funks Grove. A luscious green rash of trees among the corn and beans. Over-arching trees and dappled sunlight made just for convertibles. That you know this place speaks volumes. Nauvoo? Not so much.

Nappy also said:
"A picture is worth a thousand words."

And a thousand years from now, Blago and Bonaparte will not be wearing the same uniforms.

Anonymous said...

So we agree, Caoimhin, that the U.S. Senate has an inordinate amount of unprincipled assholes in it...

But for some bizarre reason, letting Blago exercise his "right" to put ANOTHER one in, is becoming a cause celebre for a lot democrats.

Makes no sense.

I'd also point out that the Senate repubs are so unhappy about the Senate dems not wanting Blago to insert a barbed-wire suppository appointment where the sun don't shine, that they're threatening to retaliate by blocking Franken's being seated.

Which I suggest requires a moment of reality-thought.

Does anyone here think that the reason the repubs are threatening Franken is because they're outraged about Roland Burris suffering the slings of Harry Reid's,etc., "racism"?

No? Good. I didn't think any of use were that stupid. :o)

The repubs give fuck-all about Burris, EXCEPT that if the dems are stupid enough to let him be seated (and the legal niceties of doing or not doing that, are far from clear) then, when Fitz indicts Blago (as is very likely to happen) they can beat us to death every time Burris opens his mouth or votes.

Shorter tb; that bar, again, is already so low that an arthritic cockroach could get over it. Any lower, and we'll be underground.

If Blago's indicted, and especially if he's convicted, the voters won't be much interested in the dems pleading that they just HAD to seat him, or it would be illegal...not when Fitz may well be lining up a term-paper of charges on Blago.

I'd also remind everyone that Rahm Emanuel isn't out of the woods yet, either.

darkblack said...

Oui, monsieur, ze French need le mazuma too.

;>)

Anonymous said...

Republican Whip, John Kyl of Arizona, today weeping crocodile tears of concern about Burris' "rights":

"The Senate has to be very careful of setting a precedent that just because it doesn't like the governor that appointed (Burris) we therefore refuse to seat a qualified appointee." Kyl said in a phone interview.

This, of course, is arrant horseshit. The Dems are not looking for ways to block Burris taking that seat because they don't "like" Blago; they're doing it because they know that he's probably going to be indicted in the next few months, if not sooner, AND because he might be impeached as early as next week.

Which is precisely why the party of Trent Lott, Strom Thurmond, etc. has become such courageous "civil-rights workers" in the past 72 hours.

and it's also why we should be screaming bloody murder about this fucking charade, instead of so many of us joining them to try to hang Burris around Obama and the dems necks.

There will be NO harm to leaving that seat open for a few weeks, or even months.

In fact, if Burris shows up with Jesse White's signature (to go with Blago's) the Senate could afford him the priviledges of a non-voting, non-speaking, Senator-elect, but refer the whole thing to the Senate Rules Committee for 90 days, IF no one objects. That might be a way out, but I doubt the repubs will settle for half a loaf; they want Burris voting and making speeches, on the record, so that when Fitz opens up the can of worms, they can go fishing...

Instanter.

Anonymous said...

BTW, I love it when Hamsher says:

"...but the decisions Reid is making right now are politically motivated, with little regard for the law."

Coming for someone flacking for the Blago appointment of Roland Burris to the U.S. Senate, which is NOTHING but payback to the dems for coming after him for trying to peddle that seat like it was a Wrigley Field hot dog, this gibberish is straight out of Lewis Carrol.

The Frumious Bandersnatch, giving us the real scoop on legality and political ethics. :o)

Cirze said...

Oh my goodness, Dg,

You have my sincere thanks (and an "I'm not woooorrrrthy!"),

and don't tell me that goodness had nothing to do with it.

And TB, you political animal, you.

I will take my instruction from you from now on (and Dg, of course), oh wise one.

When does your next class commence?

Anonymous said...

Tarbark: "...when Rod Blagojevich picks up an unspinnably corrupt...."

Really? And what proof do you have that Burris is corrupt?

...sound of crickets chirping...

yeah, that's what I thought

Tanbark: "...Everyone supporting team Blago/Burris is saying, in effect: "Fitz has nothing, and Blago's going to walk."..."

Really? Everyone? Wow, what a mindreader you are.

And I totally agree with Caoimhin Laochdha. I haven't suffered 8 long years of ReThug lawlessness just to see the Senate Dems pull a stunt worthy of Karl Rove.

I hold Obama and the Democrats to the SAME standard I held our Crawford Caligua and the ReThugs to.

But let's not get in the way of Princess Caroline's coronation.

Anonymous said...

from Jane: "...Walter Dellinger argues that after eight years of executive contempt for the rule of law, the most important thing right now is not whether Burris is seated or not, but that Reid's actions be impeccable...."

I don't give a rat's ass whether or not seating Burris is bad for the Democrats. And if that is anyone's primary motivation in this matter then you have learned NOTHING after 8 years of Bush's lawlessness.

Anonymous said...

Piece of cake, Gayvet. :o)

Here's Burris, changing his "vote" on Blago's fitness to govern, 17 days after he was dissing Blago and talking about how he supported Madigan's call for the Illinois Supremes to remove Blago from office.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FOIKG_T0TA

He's like: "Oh! You're offering ME the seat??? Well, all of a sudden, your political character has improved about a thousand percent."

And, ol bud, if you think that's not evidence of corruption, then send me your mail addy so I can slip you a five to defray the cost of your attending the nearest ethics seminar. :o)

And, maybe I got it wrong about what people are thinking, about supporting team Blago. Maybe the people pimping Blago/Burris are NOT concerned with what happens to Blago down the road.

And maybe they're just too fucking stupid to understand that the reason the repubs are now channelling Martin Luther King is because they want to have a democratic Senator to point to who was appointed by a crooked governor whom they are rather sure, is going to be indicted in the not-too-distant future, if not impeached in the next few weeks.

And let's talk about THAT. Are you saying that it doesn't matter what Blago has done, or that Fitz and/or the Ill. legis might hammer him, since he's only put Burris up because of his sincere belief in Burris' statesmanlike qualities?

Tell me you don't believe that. :o)

As for the shreiks about Reid's cowardice and lack of character coming from Hamsher and her ilk, Reid has shown the moxie to tell the idiots so diligently playing the race card, to go shit in their hats. Which, I make it, is a pretty good thing to do. :o)

Hamsher bases her argument for seating Burris mostly on comparisons. I don't object to her bringing up the past sins of the democrats, but we have a chance to make some real strides forward in the quality of government that we get. And pimping for Blago and Harris' "right" to use the U.S. Senate for their shitting post is nothing but more of the same, and it's just plain wrong.

This is about Blago's trying to use Burris like a cattle prod to punish the dems for joining in the shitstorm that's breaking on his head. In fact, my 2c, we can forget that Burris whored himself out for a change of principle like a K street hooker looking at an outstretched hand holding two crisp facsimiles of Ulysses S. Grant.

Paradoxically, the fact that he would even take the appointment is evidence enough of the fact that we would all be better off without him in the Senate.

A couple of more things.

Hamsher has been leading the let's-all-piss-on-Caroline-posse, for lo, these many weeks. Which is passing strange, considering the cost-plus benefits to the dems of Paterson's (an unlikely-to-be-indicted Paterson, I'll point out) appointing HER, versus the "legality" of having Blago's appointment, Burris, sitting in the Senate when Blago goes down.

And, I would like for you to explain to me how the efforts by Reid and the other dem Senators to block the seating of a demonstrable political hack who's being used on them like a sexual-aids device, by a governor who, even you (I hope!) would agree, needs to be eating off a fucking metal tray, bears any resemblance to Karl Rove's contemptible shit.

I'll end this with Caroline.

In our current political culture, a "lack of experience" ort not to be considered a minus.

After all, Hillary Clinton (whose wretched campaign tactics Hamsher has so determinedly overlooked for so long...) had lots of "experience" when she climbed on the bushCo war-calliope, and for some reason, that "experience" wasn't enough to get her off, until she saw her campaign imploding in front of her eyes, after more than five years of the bloody, useless, mayhem in Iraq.

So, don't trot out "experience" to me as an argument against Kennedy.

Lastly, she's been pilloried by a lot of "progressives" for using her family name to try to get Paterson's nod. These are the "progressives" who, just like Hamsher, are toting the hod for getting some payback on she and Ted, for their critical endorsement of Obama.

Of that particular shot at Caroline, I'd just say again, that if there is one would-be politician in America who has the right to use her name for political gain, it's Caroline Kennedy.

Anonymous said...

The Ill. legislature may get to vote on Blago's impeachment as early as next week. If they do, and the vote goes forward, it should mean the end of Burris', and his cheerleading squad.

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2009/jan/02/blagojevich-impeachment-vote-could-come-next-week/?partner=RSS

We can only hope. :o)

Also from Kos, the Committee dealing with Blago's possible impeachment wants Burris to testify. :o)

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/politics&id=6583579

Oh. The full Illinois legislature could vote as early as next Thursday on impeaching Blago. The vote to impeach him might be unanimous. :o)

And it looks like the Senate is going to put Burris so far back in the Rules Committee cloakroom that they'll have to feed him with a slingshot. :o)

I think this party's about over.

:o)

Serving Patriot said...

Tanbark,

When will the Illinois legislature take action?

It seems to me that ALL ALONG, the proper, legal remedy that the people's representatives in Springfield had since Blago's arrest is and remains IMPEACHMENT. If the issue is preventing the governor from appointing anyone, then the Illinois State Legislature could have (and should have) done something about it. Impeachment, being by its nature a POLITICAL ACT, was the right and correct path out of the mess. Too bad everyone in Springfield decided to spend their time at home with their families instead of handling the political situation they were elected to handle.

Instead, as pointed out by DG, the politicals in Illinois (including the other senator, Mr. #3 Dick Durbin) have conspired among themselves and with Washington insiders to play a really stupid game of chicken.

Well, Blago CALLED THEIR BLUFF. Is that any surprise???

Reid and the gang F'ed up. The sooner they admit it, the better. All along, they simply could have answered that they will follow the Constitution and 17th Amendment and let Illinois sort out its problems. Instead, they fell into the tiger trap, and with each clawing whimper, stick themselves with more bamboo.

SP

Myrtle June said...

I'm still back on the question of Fitz.... that doesn't seem to be clear to me. WHY NOW? And... WHERE's the indictment?

Supposedly fitz had the complaint filed and him arrested at that moment because of what he was "about to do". So, what exactly WAS that anyway? Was he about to appoint Burris? If not, who then? And why is it taking him so fucking long to get this blagoo indicted? Seems to me if he had the fucking good on him enough to arrest him, then the indictment should write itself. No?

Now, there is a legal requirement of the gov to appoint and he did that. Why in the hell is he still governor anyway? What the hell goes on in that state regarding the published conversations and his complete inability to effectivly govern given his state of bleeping mind. He should have been removed immediatly by the state. Why hasn't he been?

Is this a prescedent IF Reid and the gang refuse to seat him? Because if not, why in hell didn't they refuse to seat Liarman? He obtained his seat via unethical methods afterall. If Reid sets a prescedent by turning Burris away, then how's that going to play when the pubs have the majority down the road? No, this is a dangerous game we play here with this grandstanding business. Cuts both ways yanno.

Now, I honestly don't know what to think because I don't have enough answers. I DO know that I don't trust fitz's motives here at all. Why NOW? Why NO indictment?

Now I'm doubly suspicious given the reports here of hamsher on the bandwagon for Burris. Since the Caroline take down she's been doing confirmed to me that fdl IS indeed a hillary blog and has and does her bidding, I can't help but wonder yet again about possum playing by the clintons and the cheshire cat grinning while dropping the Times Square ball.

'Tis a puzzlement....

Drifty tell your state people to get off their asses and dump this guy pronto! Have the new gov recall Burris and appoint who the fuck ever else he wants to. Just so long as this appointment does NOT go to a state legislature vote. Seems to me Illinois needs to make some major bold moves here and quickly.

I smell clintons at work....

Myrtle June said...

And the Democrats are only in this position, and looking so compromised, because of bad decisions Reid has made in the past - jane hamsher

Errr... no. That's just bullshit. Right now, they are in this position because of the failure of the state of Illinois. The citizens of that state should be in the streets demanding impeachment like three weeks ago. Whatever else needs to happend to validate this appointment in the state process needs to work like it has never worked before to prevent him from showing up in DC. Reid and the other senators have NO STANDING to deny the entrance of Burris. NONE. Reid did not creat this mess and this is a big red herring on the part of hamsher to go after the Democrats for it. Somehow it must benefit the clintons to create this faldeeral over Reid and blame him. Yes, the dems have been jellyfish, no question but they did not elect Blagoo nor did they have him arrested. And doesn't the taint now on the state of Illinois now easily transfer to Obama? I'm sure hamsher is going there next.... very subtly though as is the way of the hillary blogs.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_U_YfQjqnhjE/SVTpEbJZHFI/AAAAAAAAAYc/bh23bjLWw8M/s1600-h/Bill_Clinton_Jane_Hamsher_Christy_Hardin_Smith.jpg

Hamsher's premise is just wrong here. It's NOT even up to REID or the Senate Democrats in the first place. Red herring alert level raised to orange.

Serving Patriot said...

MJ,

And the Democrats are only in this position, and looking so compromised, because of bad decisions Reid has made in the past.

While I agree with you in principle (the people of IL must resolve this problem themselves) and also question the strange timing of the who Fitz arrest (to me, the day after Blago threatened Bank of America is no coincidence), Reid stepped in it from day one and is part the whole problem here.

To wit: Days before Gov. Blagojevich was charged with trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder, top Senate Democrat Harry Reid made it clear who he didn’t want in the post: Jesse Jackson, Jr., Danny Davis or Emil Jones.

One wonders if Harry Reid himself is on Fitz's tapes.... and just what the BEEP he said, eh?

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse for the Dems -- it does!!!

Sigh

SP

Myrtle June said...

Crap, I just saw that article myself, sp!!! So Reid is on the tapes no doubt. Another fine mess... gah.

WHICH still leaves me wondering what Fitz is really up to here.... and who his informants, other than jjj, are.... :-|

Cirze said...

Well.

Thanks, Myrtle June.

I've been wondering about those concerns myself. You see, first I was told that Fitz wasn't really a Republican - he was just a clean government type - but then he couldn't find anything that would stick to Rove (which I found incredibly hard to believe). Now, he plays the integral role of holding Blago up for national infamy at a critical juncture (because everyone didn't know about this wonderful mess in Obama's backyard before he did) while going into a huge hesitation (perhaps endless) loop before pulling the trigger (if he does, which I'm starting to doubt), which would actually help to bring about some good government. Maybe he'll be the Repub candidate for 2012?

But I'm confused. I don't understand Ill politics, although I'm starting to.

Harry Reid is nobody's expert on Constitutional law - or perhaps the secret is he just found some yummy power to wield after 8 years of bending over. I'm sure he still has some power there as we've found out to the detriment of the prog Dems' programs. (Thanks for the BoA reference, SP, I found that illuminating myself although the game is getting pretty deep for the rest of us out here. I'd like to sweep all of them out except for Dennis, Russ and a very others.)

I'll be surprised (astonished really) to find out that the expectation of impeachment is enough to relieve even a well-known corrupted governor of his power of appointment. (I was thinking of making up a game about how many corrupt politicians had made appointments that stuck, but it didn't seem like that much fun after I thought about it a little more.) It's not in my copy of the Constitution anyway.

And yes, I've been smelling Clintons before the cork popped - and the scent is not peaches. This seems like a perfect occasion to smear Obama in the ensuing mudfight and someone very clever is behind this. I keep looking for a picture of Rove in the background, but he has many acolytes at this merry season, so we may receive more than one surprise in our stocking.

(And I've not read Hamsher at fdl in ages due to the pervasive Clinton odor.)

Anonymous said...

ServingPatriot; it looks like it might happen this coming Thursday, which wouldn't be a moment too soon. :o)

That info is in one of two links I posted above, on this thread, but I don't know how to highlight them on here, so that you can just click on them. You can go to Google and type in:

"Impeachment vote could come next week"

and I think the relevant Baltimore Sun article will come up. It explains the process.

I think, and hope, that the Blago/Burris soap opera (along with their cheerleaders) is about to go into re-runs. :o)

Anonymous said...

"I've not read Hamsher in ages, due to the pervasive Clinton odor."

No smileface big enough. :o)

Anonymous said...

Suzan, you're right; it may be that the expectation of impeachment may not be enough to undo Blago's appointing Burris.

But a formal impeachment, itself, by the full Illinois legislature, and with a unanimous or near-unanimous vote, ought to do it. and if that won't do it, the process will continue, maybe to the Ill. Supremes, and at some point (I think sooner rather than later) enough people are going to be saying:

"This asshole doesn't get to pick his NOSE, much less, a U.S. Senator."

that it will be the 8-ball in the side pocker for Blago/Burris and their "rule of law" hair-splitters.

And that "rule of law" relevance to this, is up in the air, to say the least.

Cirze said...

TB,

You're my guy on this (but I didn't get an "A" in Con Law for nothing). We'll be lucky if it be so.

What thinks the gleaming Dg?

Serving Patriot said...

Tanbark,

ServingPatriot; it looks like it might happen this coming Thursday, which wouldn't be a moment too soon.

Let's hope you are right, friend.

SP

PS: to do the little link thingy, try using a a href="your url" with a closing /a tag. Tags are surrounded with the <> symbols. The name of your link goes between the a href and /a tags. Clear as mud??

Anonymous said...

SP, you're a braveheart to try to teach me anything about these big ju-ju devil-machines. :o) I'm the lowest-tech redneck in South Carolina.

I got a nosebleed just reading that. But I'll try, when I'm feeling smarter. :o)

It is disappointing that Reid didn't know what a tarbaby Blago was...or knew, and still tried to influence him. We can only hope that there wasn't any bargaining.

If there was, he's fucked. And to some extent, so are we. Which I've been believing for a while now, with Obama's appointments, and with the fact that a shit like Blago seems to have successfully ass-raped the democratic party.
With help from a lot of "rule of law" democrats and their fellow Blago defenders, the repubs.
I think any help from Fitz in sinking Blago is down the road too far. If the Illinois legislature doesn't move quickly on this, no amount of surgery will cure it.

This is turning into a death-fight, and it won't spare Obama.

Serving Patriot said...

This is turning into a death-fight, and it won't spare Obama.

Yep. Kinda like teh gays in the military was to Bubba.

Sigh.

It will have to be one helluva inauguration speech. I still hope, but I also seek some retribution for what has been done to us. And the whole Blago thing stinks of pre-emption by the Man if you ask me.

SP

Anonymous said...

I don't know, SP...I think the repubs lucked into this one, courtesy of Blago's corruption, the willingness of too many important dems to talk to him, and Fitz's investigation.

but they're sure as hell making political hay out of it, helped again, by a lot of not-very-perceptive democrats.

I don't think Emanuel is out of the woods yet, and now Reid may be IN them, himself. Depends on what's on those phone tapes.

Arrrrrghhh...

Anonymous said...

This is for all the Team Blago people so frantically pearl-clutching about legality:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081231/D95DBMD81.html

And since you can't link to it here, it just says that the Senate is the final abiter about who is or is not qualified to be in it.

And quotes article I, Section 5, of the constitution:

"Each house shall be the judge of the elections, returns, and qualifications, of it's own members..."

Anonymous said...

Sure you can :-)

tanbark's article reference.

Anonymous said...

Anon; Grazie. :o)

I'll try to figure out the how's, using SP's tutorial.

I think that's a hell of a good piece. It might help with all of the hand-wringing about reality, and with people savaging Reid for ignoring "rule of law".

(Just like, ahem, the repubs...)

He sure deserves some dings, for being so comfortable with bush's bloody, idiotic, policies all these years, but not for trying to keep Blago from using Burris on us like he was a barbed-wire covered proctoscope.

Myrtle June said...

Yes, good article Tanbark. Thanks. I see now they indeed DO have standing to deny burris and there have been other instances. Also, I see today that reid denies the article where he told blago not to appoint jjj. What a mess.

Anonymous said...

So Burris changing his opinion of Blogo is evidence of corruption? Wow. Mighty high standards you got there, partner. Do they apply to Reid and the Senate Democrats? Based on your comments they better be purer than Caesar's wife in how they deal with this situation. Or are you only interested in what benefits the Democrats?

Sorry Tanbark, but whether doing the right thing helps or hurts the Democrats is utterly irrelevant. Country over party, otherwise I'd be a ReThug.

Anonymous said...

Now, now, GayVet. Let's be accurate. :o) He didn't just take another look at the evidence, and start thinking: "Maybe I was a little hard on Blago when I joined Madigan in calling for the Ill. Supremes to oust him."

He changed it after Blago offered HIM the seat. And if you think that isn't the act of an un-principled hack, then maybe you SHOULD be on the other side of the aisle.

I'll also point out that we had the entertaining spectacle of Burris, in that interview with CNN, as he thoughtfully covered his bases, REFUSING to say that the man who just appointed him to the U.S. Senate should stay in office. :o) Which is a pretty good yardstick of just how crooked he is.

If putting a piece of shit like Burris in the Senate is "the right thing" then put me down for doing the "wrong" thing...

Starting with praising Reid and the dems if they throw Burris into the Senate Rules Committee closet while the Ill. legislature gets on with impeaching Blago.

Which brings me to two questions for you:

What's the big hurry?



When/if Blago is removed from office, the price of playing "Let's-put-Burris-in because-it's-LEGAL!" poker, is going to go through the roof.

How big is YOUR stack of chips? :o)

Anonymous said...

Sorry Tanbark, but after eight long years of utter lawlessness I am simply in no mood for Senate Democrats to abuse their power.

If Senate Democrats are so goddamn concerned about appearances then why is Sen. Vitter (R-Pampers/Whores) still in the Senate?