As a mobile shithouse.
Does that look like a bio-weapons lab on wheels?
No?
Whassamatta? You don't wanna work in the White House?
Because I think the interesting part about this report from the AP is what's missing.
Report Raises New Questions on Bush, WMDs
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer
The White House faced new questions Wednesday about President Bush's contention three years ago that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq.
The Washington Post reported that a Pentagon-sponsored team of experts determined in May 2003 that two small trailers were not used to make biological weapons. Yet two days after the team sent its findings to Washington in a classified report, Bush declared just the opposite.
"We have found the weapons of mass destruction," Bush said in an interview with a Polish TV station. "We found biological laboratories."
Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said Wednesday that Bush was relying on information from the Central Intelligence Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency when he said the trailers seized after the 2003 invasion were mobile biological laboratories. That information was later discredited by the Iraq Survey Group in its 2004 report.
The CIA and DIA publicly issued an assessment one day after the Pentagon team's report arrived in Washington that said U.S. officials were confident that the trailers were used to produce biological weapons. The assessment said the mobile facilities represented "the strongest evidence to date that Iraq was hiding a biological warfare program."
McClellan said it was unclear whether officials at the White House were aware of the contradictory field report when Bush repeated the claim in the television interview.
"If and when the White House became aware of this particular issue, I'm looking into that matter," McClellan said. "The White House has asked the CIA and the DIA to go and look into that issue."
The Post did not say that Bush knew what he was saying was false. But ABC News did during a report on "Good Morning America," and McClellan demanded an apology and an on-air retraction. ABC News said later in a clarification on its Web site that Charles Gibson had erred. McClellan said he had received an apology.
"This is nothing more than rehashing an old issue that was resolved long ago," McClellan said. "I cannot count how many times the president has said the intelligence was wrong."
"The intelligence community makes the assessment," he said. "The White House is not the intelligence-gathering agency."
…
The trailers — along with aluminum tubes acquired by Iraq for what was believed to be a nuclear weapons program — were primary pieces of evidence offered by the Bush administration before the war to support its contention that Iraq was making weapons of mass destruction.
Intelligence officials and the White House have repeatedly denied claims that intelligence was exaggerated or manipulated in the months before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003. The Iraq Survey Group concluded in 2004 that there was no evidence that Iraq produced weapons of mass destruction after 1991.
Oh, I remember this very well. It was all over the news.
No nuanced view here. No cautious, conditional statements. No “wait and see”.
No, what we got was the same simple, Evangelical certitudes that we always get from the Dear Leader and his loyal retainers.
"We have found the weapons of mass destruction."
The same, blunt, in-your-face, absolutist, “I have no doubt” declaratives. It is Dubya Triumphant in full, “Mission Accomplished” regalia as he does what every stone drunk does when the party runs out and the bill comes due: belligerantly separates his saucer-section from reality.
The difference is, Dubya doesn’t beat his face to jelly in private, in some obscure, small-town drunk tank, shrieking out his terrors and delusions where only a bored deputy sheriff can hear.
No, the Most Powerful Man on Earth reels across the world stage chasing his Gin Genies, an in his wake, nations are ruined, armies die, and treasuries are bled white.
But for the worst and most perverse of reasons, war is good for Republican politics for the simple reason that moderns Republicans do not lay claim to extraordinary powers because they need them to fight a war.
No, Republicans go to war because they want extraordinary powers to ram through their extremist agenda.
War lets a weak little creep shut down dissent while his bag men loot the place. It is grotesque -- like carjacking an SUV full of children because you covet the lighter -- but it lets the GOP have a crack at the Hunny Pot they have always craved -- unlimited and unchecked power -- so Preznit Tipsy McStagger has a vast entourage of enablers and pilot fish.
It serves the bloody and depraved visions of a thug like Cheney.
It lets a Military Lysenko like Rumsfeld play out his insane theories of strategy and empire with real soldiers. (this from Wikipedia about Trofim Denisovich Lysenko, with a few, minor modifications from me for pointed emphasis.)
Such would be the pattern of Lysenko's success with the RepublicanSovietmedia from 1927 until 1964—reports of amazing (and impossible) successes, which would be replaced with claims of new successes once the old ones became failures. What mattered more to the press was that Lysenko was a "barefoot scientist"—an embodiment of the mythical Republican militarySoviet peasantgenius.
Lysenko's "science" was practically nonexistent. When he had any clearly formed theories, they were generally a mishmash of Lamarckism and various confused forms of Darwinism; the majority of Lysenko's work consisted of so-called "practical directions" for agriculture…
…
Though scientifically unsound on a number of levels, RepublicanSovietjournalists and chickenhawksagricultural officialswere delighted with Lysenko's claims, as they sped up warfarelaboratory workand cheapened it considerably. Lysenko was given his own journal, Vernalization, in 1935, with which he generally bragged about forthcoming successes.
It lets chickenhawks and hucksters get dandied up in red-white-and-blue party clothes and pretend they don’t despise this country and work like the Devil to run it up on the rocks and replace it with Saudia Arabia v 2.0.
So what’s missing from this article?
How about any mention of exactly how Dubya became so convinced that a rotted out trailor with some steel drums and tubing was definitively “biological laboratories”?
Now that the doubts were emerging about the predicates for the war, what is the name of the person or agency who told George Bush that the ruins of some kind of hydrogen separation facility was such slam-dunk evidence of WMDs.
The name of the person or agency that framed the find in such black-and-white terms that President of the United States felt quite comfortable announcing the news as "We have found the weapons of mass destruction" on television.
One might wildly speculate that one of Dubya’s faith-based Brownie-finger-puppets – one of the Bush Fedayeen -- got wind that someone had found some kinda weird looking RV and ran to tell the old man that they had maybe struck WMD gold. And since we now know Dubya to be a man quite comfortable with torturing whatever conclusions he wants out of whatever “facts” he finds lying around, one might wildly speculate that he just grabbed that bottle with both hands and started pouring the next round of lies.
And since lies, half-truths and wild speculations are how this Administration makes policy and sends people off to kill and die, why shouldn’t I as an average citizen also be free to wildly speculate on what we have found and what it means as well?
Was Bush drunk off his ass on complimentary Polish vodka when he said this?
Was he hearing voices?
Did he have a mental breakdown of some kind?
Or did some person or agency in our government tell the President of the United States that definitive proof of WMDs had been found?
And, if so, what were their names and how did they reach their conclusions, especially since this happened two days after “a Pentagon-sponsored team of experts determined [in May 2003] that two small trailers were not used to make biological weapons.”?
Or is it just Chapter 1,227 of the same, sad story?
Bush is just a liar. Nothing more. He will continue to extrude whatever lies serve the needs of the moment, and his lies will continue to kill Americans, because the maggoty Tom DeLay/Bill Frist/Jerry Falwell/Ann Coulter thing that has replaced Republican Party will always put Party ahead of country, and is morally incompetent to stop him.
And since Bush will always find someone to help him cover up his lies -- "This is nothing more than rehashing an old issue that was resolved long ago," McClellan said. -- and he will always find someone else to blame when his lies go South -- "The intelligence community makes the assessment," he said. "The White House is not the intelligence-gathering agency." -- there is no incentive whatsoever for him to stop.
And as long as Republicans continue to remain sanguine about letting Dubya’s lies bankrupt this country and kill its citizens, the nightmare will just go on and on.
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That nails it to the wall. No further questions, your driftglassness. ;-)
I haven't had the chance to read Hersh's latest article yet in the NEW YORKER, but I hear that Caesar Doofus Maximus wants to nuke Iran--he thinks he's got a divine mandate to save the world from Iran--and senior military officers are threatening to resign if CDM doesn't take the nuclear option off the table. (Insert ominous music of your choice here)
Well... I meant to comment on this yesterday (but I am so often a day late and half-dollar short. *sigh*)
But - Greenwald has finally caught up to the *faux debate* within the lying cretins of GOP-ers who now *pretend* never to have believed in Child-In-Chief or his Woar and your points - made week after week - about those Anti-American Rethuglicans.
Or you've caught up to his persuasive points and rehashed them here in your blogspicacious way.
Which ever it is (chicken or eggs) it's just most interesting to see!
Let the Real Debate Roll On - I am enjoying this!
:-D
I have to have lunch with one of the Bush apologists tomorrow, and I have been wondering if my head will explode more to find that she *still* loves Bush (haven't had a meeting for 4 months), or if she's now changed her mind and will want me to congratulate her and kiss her ass over it, without her ever mentioning the part where I was treated as lying and/or delusional for years. Probably my head will explode either way, I am just wondering which one will set me off most in the moment. Probably the latter, I am used to the former. I am not wearing a favorite outfit in case the mess is extreme.
Also I can't decide if it's better to order some booze and swill it quickly right off the bat or not. Might numb me, but then it might reduce the inhibitions about screaming in a public place.
Imagine me in Applebees (retch, not my choice) jumping upon the table and screaming about the poo smell.
Decisions.
"Imagine me in Applebees (retch, not my choice) jumping upon the table and screaming about the poo smell."
Film at 11:00!
Anyway, when I heard his remarks in Poland, my first thought was, he is waaaay over there and doesn't think we can hear him waaaay over here.
I'm gonna be all over this in my Assclowns of the Week but it'll be interesting to see Bush blame the intelligence community for this like he did in that "non-partisan" report last year that he himself commissioned.
Drifty, drifty, Don't you know that all facts can be fudged if you begin their spewing with, "I believe x,y,z...?" That seems to be their strategy. Then they can rewrite the banner behind Tipsy later.
"I believe the sky is fuchsia." See? It works.
Kid Charlemagne,
I left a reponse to you comment on the "Superman where are you now" thread.
I remember having a fairly heated row with a couple of wingnuts at a bar a couple of days after Powell sat there at the U.N. with a kid's cheap science project triptych covered with half-*ssed marker renderings of "mobile-weapon lab" trucks.
Now mind you, these two clowns had spent the better part of two hours telling me that we'd find Saddam's weapons buried beneath underground lakes, secreted in hidden half-rooms of his numerous palaces and in the pedestals of his statues around Baghdad, so Colin's "bicarbonate of soda" volcano--whoops! I mean, his riveting presentation of drawings on boards had these two fellas feeling pretty good--along with the Rumplemintz shots they'd evidently gotten a head-start on pounding before I'd arrived.
So I asked them quite simply, "If we can get satellite images of a weed-grower in Big Sur's backyard full of ganja plants so crisp we can damn near count the veins in the leaves, if we can nab footage from unmanned aerial drones as they home in on a soon-to-be-obliterated target, and can apparently get heat-signature images of what goes one behind the walls of a house without benefit of a human eye or camera lens laid upon it, how...how come the best we can do on this stuff you're dancin' about is some sh*t that if you also copied a drawing of "Pedro, The Wet-eyed Donkey" half-decently next to it might get you into the "Famous Artists' School"--and little else if you really think about it? Drawings? F*cking drawings?"
The duo didn't respond for a minute. I mean, they moved forward like they wanted to say something, with stunted "well"'s and "y'see"'s caught in their throats. This happened a couple of times until one of 'em said..."What...you don't believe him? You think he'd lie?"
To which I said, "I've never seen someone look more shamed or less-convinced tell "the truth" on an issue. The only thing that could've for me, made him seem more ill-at ease would be if he had to get his body under the desk and and thrill us to a hand-puppet show featuring a papier-maché Saddam and a turbaned "Bio-Weapons Guy" moving dud M-80s around the tabletop".
At that point I was dismissed as a "wacko", and "America-hater", and then told how wrong I'd be when the weapons were found.
"And nobody's gonna have to plant 'em there either, 'cause they're there and we're gonna find 'em!", said the one who'd been quaffing Rumplemintz and lead-paint thinner to boot.
As I walked away from these clowns who proceeded to f*ck up a wall thanks to the worst drunken dart-tossing recorded outside of a dart-tip testng lab, I shook my head and wondered Mugatu-like if I had been "taking crazy pills". I mean...moving labs around like those would have been pretty easily seen, right--via the technology that was then government-only, but we now use daily via Google Maps? It would have been documented visually beyond some...I dunno...some random truck in the background of little Johnnie's neato Spider-Man poster he drew in art class, right?
I remember Powell sitting there and I kept imagining him sheepishly saying "And this next one is of me fighting the Mandarin and Doc Doom in my special exo-suit I designed--I used marker and colored pencil on this one. What? Well, it's kinda like Iron Man's--but better!"
I kept thinking, "He sat there with drawings. He sat there...with drawings.
And tacitly, but wanly co-signed the needless death warrants for damn near 2500 American soldiers.
I looked back over at the drunken stumblebum snipers of the 101st Fighting Bullsh*t-Spewers blowing off a little steam before slurring their way into battle against the next Islamofascistantiamericanahedeen they'd stumble across on the sawdust-floored battlefield.
Drunk # 1 missed the wall almost entirely, snagging the edge of a curtain that led down the hall to the sh*tter.
How apt.
Misses the mark entirely but inadvertently winds up pointing all who can see, the way to the sh*tter.
Lord, have mercy.
Best,
LowerManhattanite
LowerMan:
Let's not forget, also, the tape of those two Iraqi officers talking about double super-secret (or is it super double-secret? I never could remember) things like the WMD's. Pay no attention, comrades, to the fact that Iraqi officers, Three Stooges versions of actual military officers, to be sure, but pay no attentuion to the the fact, comrades, that Iraqi military officers, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, ever talk about such sensitive things on open channels knowing they could be monitored for quality control purposes (or so we tell them).
Also, pay no attention to the fact, comrades, that anthrax, in its raw form, looks more like Coca Cola syrup than it does a white powder.
Let's also not forget that sarin has a half-life that can be measured in multiples of months and that any produced back in the early 90's could actually be ingested (you might want to mix it with scotch, however).
But Colin Powell was a war hero, like George Bush (and Dick Cheney could've been, too, if that damned Mary Cheney hadn;t come into the world when she did, forcing Dead Eye Dick to take a record-setting fifth deferment): How could we not believe him? He was the fucking Secretary of State, for God's sake! Like Condi, like Kissinger. And, I ask you, when did those august statesmen ever lie to us?
JP: No, no, no, it's THERAGEN derivatives that go well with Scotch, not SARIN derivatives!
Surfing the Tholian Web, Kid Charlemagne
Griffon, thanx for the list, but I already largely accept the progressive worldview, and I'm overworked, so I'll just take your word for it. Thank you for playing "Terminal Earnestness". ;P
Well, you did ask the question and my answeer was counter to your expressed world view.
I wasn't playing, either. That was a genuine offer although I knew it was an easy target for more snark.
I think that's a sad set of priorities you have there. I'd be more than a little embarrassed to admit that.
LowerManhattanite - just wait until Bush-Nero bombs Iran.
The most dangerous period in America's history is between now and Election Day 2006.
I realized the ability to be embarrassed was a handicap in this world, so I had that area of my brain surgically removed. ;)
I would agree that the USA needs to reduce its armed forces substantially. I would like to see my country with a sufficient capacity to deter attack, but not to prop up global plutocracy. For one thing, the current level of "defense" is bankrupting my country (and yet we "can't" provide adequate body armor for our troops--the fat cat friends of Caesar Doofus Maximus get all the money, I guess).
"Don't take life too seriously--you'll never get out of it alive."--Bugs Bunny
Slackly, Kid Charlemagne
I'm still astonished that they didn't parachute crack teams of LAPD evidence planters into Iraq with vials of nerve gas and chunks of uranium and whatnot, and just PLANT stuff. I kept expecting them to yank Saddam out of some bunker, pull some uranium out of his coat pocket, and drag him off while he shouted "that's not my uranium! That's not even my jacket! You planted that! That's not mine!"
I'm just astonished.
Cleter, I expected them to try something like that, too.---KC
Guys, I gotta tell you, if junior went on fauxnews, and proclaimed to all and sundry that shit stinks, at this point, I'd run down to the sewage-plant-"florist" for a 5 gallon bucket of the sweetest smelling attar of the "Yaller Rose of Texas" that you ever sniffed.
Who needs Ouija boards or sheep entrails?
If these assholes say one thing, then, it's a fuckin' Moses-carryin'-the-stone-tablets LOCK that the opposite is true.
Goddammit, just give us the patience to not crank up the firestorm too soon, but wait, and let it hit at the mid-terms, so that a million diebolt machines won't be enough to cover their election-thieving asses.
I spent an hour this morning, talking with a dear, dear, friend
in Sebastopol, California. A friend made, of all places, in the 4 years I spent in the suck, as we were wont to call mother green, in those days.
He is certain that the towers came down, not because the avgas melted the steel skeletons and allowed the weight of the above-impact portions of the buildings to pancake their way down; he believes that there were charges placed at strategic points in the buildings, to bring them down.
He thinks that Cheyney arranged for a lot of the fighter aircraft to be up on a military exercise in Greenland, on September 11th. And so on...
To me, the logistics of this, of being able to pull it off, and NOT have someone's conscience kick in, and them come forward to tell of it, are impossible.
Too many people involved.
I argued that there are still enough people left, even in his administration, who would not countenance that, and that there are also enough of our military left, with honor and intelligence, to prevent our troops being used to crank up another round of the insanity.
He said he hopes I'm right, and recognizes that there is a hell of a quiet "war" going on right now, within our military between the '34 Nuremburg types, and the decent officers, who believe in their role of protecting the country from real threats, instead of bloody-assed phantoms with lots of oil.
But I agree with him on this:
He said that there was no limit to what bush and his coterie of petroturds would do.
He said that there was a good chance that they would try to engineer some kind of catastrophe, just in time for the mid-terms, to stop the legitimate process of calling them to account, from happening.
My cyinicism ebbs and flows, but the flow is always toward the realization that the people who are in the white house, are as crazed and demented as Steve Gilliard's shithouse rats, and I only HOPE that someone up there will keep their eyes on them, for the kind of "manufactured-reality" event that my friend is so paranoid about.
And that, just like Kissinger, they warn the pentagon to ignore any "launch" orders from junior.
Cleter and Kid Charlemagne,
I read somewhere (can't remember where) last year that Brewster Jennings (Valerie Plame's firm) intercepted an operation doing just that. The stuff was being brought in from Turkey.
I'll try and track it down later. I thought at the time it explained quite a few things.
From this site:-
http://thailandesl.chazzsongs.net/inews_fitz.htm
(It would be better to find the original at WMR but I'm on dial-up and pushed for time today. But here's a start)
New aspect of Valerie Plame / Brewster Jennings exposure revealed.
by Wayne Madsen
November 11, 2005
According to U.S. intelligence sources, the White House exposure of Valerie Plame and her Brewster Jennings & Associates was intended to retaliate against the CIA's work in limiting the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Wayne Madsen Report has reported in the past on this aspect of the scandal. In addition to identifying the involvement of individuals in the White House who were close to key players in nuclear proliferation, the CIA Counter-Proliferation Division prevented the shipment of binary VX nerve gas from Turkey into Iraq in November 2002. The Brewster Jennings network in Turkey was able to intercept this shipment which was intended to be hidden in Iraq and later used as evidence that Saddam Hussein was in possession of weapons of mass destruction. U.S. intelligence sources revealed that this was a major reason the Bush White House targeted Plame and her network.
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CIA counter-proliferation network prevented a WMD "salting" operation by Bush White House in Iraq.
In fact, U.S. intelligence sources report that the first shipment of VX nerve gas to Saddam Hussein was carried out between 1988 and 1989. The gas was shipped to Iraq by a U.S. company that was established in 1987 -- The Carlyle Group.
Thanx, Griff. It does sound like just the sort of thing the Elephascists would try.
Tanbark:
WRT the WTC: I do find it very, very odd that the collapse of the two towers (not to mention WTC7) was consistent with the kind of collapse that results from a controlled demolition (IOW, the placement of explosives at strategic points within the building to be demolished).
Loveandlight; I shore admit that they came down like a demo job, but, my god, with the logistics of doing that, HOW could they keep a lid on it? Think of the people who would have to be involved, to deliver and plant all those explosives.
Does bushCo have the cajones, or are they stupid enough to risk the fucking republican party and it's "America Firster" mentality, if one person, corroborates the attack.
AND, they would have had to co-
ordinate the job, with Al Queada!
Which would have handed their balls over to Bin Laden, in perpetuity, for him to eat, juggle, make them pay to redeem, or feed to the dogs, at his leisure.
I also have a sneaking doubt that they are, or at least, WERE quite THAT desperate and cynical.
But, I think they are now.
I think it is time for me to start my own blog. I have read enough about my flag hobby. Thanks for the post.
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