tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post917387909207682881..comments2024-03-29T05:00:41.967-05:00Comments on driftglass: Sunday Morning Comin' Down -- UPDATEdriftglasshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09379167083253389153noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-27852091432612164592014-05-13T15:45:44.703-05:002014-05-13T15:45:44.703-05:00@tmk
You described perfectly what struck me as no...@tmk <br />You described perfectly what struck me as not quite right with the Trayster. It's bigger than the hair. Literally and figuratively.Kathleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-42599407371727651542014-05-13T15:44:52.193-05:002014-05-13T15:44:52.193-05:00Here is Timeeh Geithner man-splaining to Elizabeth...Here is Timeeh Geithner man-splaining to Elizabeth Warren why AIG HAD TO be bailed out at 100 cents on the dollar. (Capitalism for thee but not for me!)<br /><br />It's truly hysterical viewing.<br /><br />Please remember that Obama picked Geithner during a time of crisis because Geithner was the best man for the job at hand. Think about that for a second. Then tell yourself that both sides don't and if we could only piss on the ashes of the Republican Party...<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egc_5UAJIIk<br /><br />ps I stumbled across this amazing clip over at Esquire where Charlie Pierce was making fun of Timeeh for his own purposes.the cheese eaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-42784915661428605692014-05-13T14:49:44.787-05:002014-05-13T14:49:44.787-05:00Larry Wilkerson has an explanation for why Both Si...Larry Wilkerson has an explanation for why Both Sides Do. He doesn't say that one team is the good team and the other team is the bad team. He doesn't say that our political system would work and result in more agreeable outcomes if one party were burned to the ground. <br /><br />That is a misdiagnosis.<br /><br />Instead, he thinks individuals, especially groups of individuals use the political process to advance their own narrow interests. He speaks convincingly about what is really happening in America. It's essentially politics 101.<br /><br />http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=11839<br /><br />the cheese eaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-82648240604661919262014-05-13T10:11:24.790-05:002014-05-13T10:11:24.790-05:00It will probably take a little time, but I foresee...It will probably take a little time, but I foresee a future populated by key players from "Both Sides" pissing and moaning about the rude tumbrel ride while staring into the basket cam of one of those new-fangled, solar-powered, laser guillotines erected in town squares everywhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-70796463948965666332014-05-13T05:05:10.312-05:002014-05-13T05:05:10.312-05:00OBS and Horace,
The entire point is that nobody r...OBS and Horace,<br /><br />The entire point is that nobody ran on single payer or "Medicare for All"! The Democrats are especially incapable of such a maneuver.<br /><br />Everybody already knows that the Democrats passed the Republican healthcare program, the Democrats passed Republican welfare reform proposals, the Democrats passed the Republican Wall Street deregulation program, the Democrats passed Republican free trade agreements and that Democrats were in wild eyed support for Bush the lessor’s invasion of Iraq. <br /><br />None of this is in dispute. It is the historical record. <br /><br />Driftglass will tell ya that Democrats did all these things because Both Sides Don't. If anyone suggests that Democrats are active, complicit enablers and promoters of the above policies and that Both Sides Do, in fact, they Do It All the Time you get name calling. Don’t be a closet Republican, you purity troll!!<br /><br />Guess what? <br />Both Sides Do.<br />Both Sides Do It All The Time.<br />In fact, Both Sides are working in ways to screw you over right now.<br />the cheese eaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-74762602901352263572014-05-12T22:34:45.961-05:002014-05-12T22:34:45.961-05:00@OBS
President Obama did not even, as you correct...@OBS<br /><br />President Obama did not even, as you correctly observe, try for the very good reason that HE DIDN'T RUN ON SINGLE PAYER! (Sorry to shout, but some of us are rather hard of hearing) That whole idea was a wish fulfillment fantasy projected by some of his more enthusiastic followers who subsequently turned on him like a pack of rabid hyenas after he failed to be the Great Lefty Savior that they had imagined him to be.<br /><br />The fact is that nobody ran on Single Payer (well, except for Jill Stein but only idiots vote for her) because there is no mass political constituency demanding it (and no, the Green Party and its sparklepony sycophants do not constitute a mass constituency). The ACA was the best we could get, given the political realities, and while it's not everything we want (because we all want Single Payer, despite the howler monkey chorus of "Sellouts!") it is in fact the biggest single move forward in public health in a generation and a fine base for generating more progress down the road.<br /> Horace Boothroyd IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-90450213846245860752014-05-12T18:37:53.626-05:002014-05-12T18:37:53.626-05:00@Kathleen
...not to put too fine a point on it, b...@Kathleen<br /><br />...not to put too fine a point on it, but I think in Gowdy's case it's called Inbreeding.<br /><br />The hairstylist was stumped as to how to do =anything= to disguise his pointy head short of a Dolly Parton wig...tmknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-36011940060442003712014-05-12T17:01:04.838-05:002014-05-12T17:01:04.838-05:00This is somewhat OT and extremely shallow and chil...This is somewhat OT and extremely shallow and childish, but what the hell is it with male Reputhuglican politicians and weird, bad hair? First Rand Paul and the Dead Ferret look. Now this Trey Gowdy guy. Sheesh.Kathleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-9503686809750040542014-05-12T16:11:24.719-05:002014-05-12T16:11:24.719-05:00and I thought American politicians were stupid bef...and I thought American politicians were stupid before I read this article. Now I know it. You would think in a country, with unemployment not exactly low, more than a million in jail, inadequate care for seniors, inadequate care for veterans, the infrastructure following down around its ears, the politicians of the U.S.A. might find something more meaning full to discuss. ah, well only in America? thank god.<br /><br />When ever I feel down about our politicians in Canada, I just look south and am so thankful we don't have American politicians.e.a.f.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-14099313271167724652014-05-12T15:17:09.271-05:002014-05-12T15:17:09.271-05:00the cheese eater said...
what Obama said and did r...<i>the cheese eater said...<br />what Obama said and did regarding single payer once elected.</i><br /><br />Oooh, that's a tough one... Hang on... Let me see... Divide by eleventy... Carry the two... Got it!<br /><br /><b>He. Didn't. Even. Try!</b><br /><br />What do I win? Is it a sparklepony? I bet it's a sparklepony.OBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290768768025981403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-64486080665854470622014-05-12T15:15:51.203-05:002014-05-12T15:15:51.203-05:00steeve asks:
What would it take to find a group o...steeve asks:<br /><br /><i>What would it take to find a group of people to the <b>left</b> of the facts?</i><br /><br />Personally, I'd look for them among people who believe that tearing down all current hierarchies will, of itself, be enough to prevent new hierarchies from forming. And I'd start <i>that</i> search among the people who believe in a need to tear down <i>all</i> current hierarchies, not just the ones that annoy them personally.Neo Tuxedohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15455041641080873400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-64740525895908907182014-05-12T14:25:48.613-05:002014-05-12T14:25:48.613-05:00"I think this bold "Saving Meet the Pres..."I think this bold "Saving Meet the Press by not actually airing Meet the Press" has a lot pf promise."<br /><br />Snort!! <br /><br />I concur with your theories and would like to subscribe to your news letter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-35885956941086905722014-05-12T13:52:29.340-05:002014-05-12T13:52:29.340-05:00OBS,
I'll leave it to you to search your own m...OBS,<br />I'll leave it to you to search your own memory hole and the internet machine to remind yourself about what Clinton said and did regarding NAFTA and what Obama said and did regarding single payer once elected.the cheese eaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-91200120205460926472014-05-12T13:26:26.059-05:002014-05-12T13:26:26.059-05:00"They have asked why we can't just rebuke..."They have asked why we can't just rebuke the president and move on"<br /><br />Let's not forget that this was (and still is) the <i>liberal</i> position. Liberals are often to the right of the facts. What would it take to find a group of people to the <i>left</i> of the facts?<br /><br />The only factual position is that, in the Clinton witchhunt, the <i>prosecution</i> should have been impeached, then impeached again, then censured a few dozen times, then rebuked. Then and only then, if there's still time, we can declare that Bill Clinton was imperfect.<br />steevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12620735494191381865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-20779902484913830712014-05-12T11:46:03.200-05:002014-05-12T11:46:03.200-05:00Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't blogwhore ...Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't blogwhore a link to my terrible <a href="http://oregonbeersnob.blogspot.com/2014/05/trey-gowdy-greedo.html" rel="nofollow">Trey Gowdy/Greedo</a> mashup.OBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290768768025981403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-9557359898065323802014-05-12T11:43:37.762-05:002014-05-12T11:43:37.762-05:00One thing IT DOES NOT MEAN is that Republicans are...<i>One thing IT DOES NOT MEAN is that Republicans are mainly responsible for preventing single payer. It does not mean that Republicans are mainly responsible for the global financial crisis. It does not mean that Republicans are mainly responsible NAFTA.</i><br /><br />Yes, it's quite clear the Vampires are responsible. Damn bloodsuckers are always causing trouble. Vote Werewolf/Sparklepony 2016!OBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290768768025981403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-75237148527079693662014-05-12T09:33:27.248-05:002014-05-12T09:33:27.248-05:00There is a part of me that hopes they do try to im...There is a part of me that hopes they do try to impeach. I sure they have the votes and want to get this behind them. I'm also sure that impeachment would be the cherry on top of the obstructionist icing on their cake of hatred, bigotry and utter incompetence. Impeachment will only hasten the political doom they are already staring down the barrel of.JerryBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-73910487384898837252014-05-12T03:19:11.395-05:002014-05-12T03:19:11.395-05:00A small note from the historical record regarding ...A small note from the historical record regarding the policy prescriptions of the Democratic Party and the "New Left". The New Left wanted to reshape the Democratic Party making its policies track the policies of Republicans much more closely.<br /><br />One vehicle the New Left used to achieve this objective was a group called the Democratic Leadership Council or DLC.<br /><br />Former Democratic Leadership Council Chairs include Bill Clinton, Joe Liberman and Harold Ford.<br /><br />The DLC started as a group of forty-three elected officials. [They] shared [the] goal of reclaiming the Democratic Party from the left's influence prevalent since the late 1960s. Their original focus was to secure the 1988 presidential nomination of a southern conservative Democrat such as Nunn or Robb… It is the opinion of the DLC that economic populism is not politically viable, citing the defeated Presidential campaigns of Senator George McGovern in 1972 and Vice-President Walter Mondale in 1984. <br /><br />The DLC states that it “seeks to define and galvanize popular support for a new public philosophy built on progressive ideals, mainstream values, and innovative, non-bureaucratic, market-based solutions."[9]<br /><br />• The DLC has supported welfare reform.<br />• The DLC supports expanded health insurance via tax credits for the uninsured and opposes plans for single-payer universal health care. <br />• The DLC supports charter schools, and supports the No Child Left Behind Act.<br />• The DLC supports both NAFTA and CAFTA.<br />• The organization supports some forms of Social Security privatization.<br />• The DLC gave strong support for the 2003 invasion of Iraq<br />• During the 2004 Primary campaign the DLC attacked Presidential candidate Howard Dean as an out-of-touch liberal because of Dean's anti-war stance<br />• The DLC dismissed other critics of the Iraq invasion such as filmmaker Michael Moore as members of the "loony left"<br />It’s founder called upon Democrats to balance their criticism of Bush's handling of the Iraq War with praise for the President's achievements and cautioned "Democrats need to be choosier about the political company they keep, distancing themselves from the pacifist and anti-American fringe."<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council<br /><br />So Bill Clinton was being impeached at the exact same time he was pursuing the Republican policy platform. Interestingly, Barack Obama is constantly under attack and being maligned for passing the Republican healthcare plan.<br /><br />This means something significant. <br /><br />One thing IT DOES NOT MEAN is that Republicans are mainly responsible for preventing single payer. It does not mean that Republicans are mainly responsible for the global financial crisis. It does not mean that Republicans are mainly responsible NAFTA.the cheese eaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-42999897464876426802014-05-12T02:34:57.490-05:002014-05-12T02:34:57.490-05:00I think people on both sides of the aisle want to ...I think people on both sides of the aisle want to know what Mary Bono's involvement was in the death of Sonny Bono. There is after all no statute of limitation on capitol murder. Not that I'm making an accusation here but somebody could have pushed Sonny into that tree or even pushed that tree in front of him.<br /><br />Inquiring minds want to know!Frednoreply@blogger.com