tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post8055415698605354360..comments2024-03-29T07:36:51.933-05:00Comments on driftglass: Bernie Speaks Truthdriftglasshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09379167083253389153noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-72256556285182568542015-10-02T05:46:41.009-05:002015-10-02T05:46:41.009-05:00If you want to be a successful authoritarian, Chan...If you want to be a <i>successful</i> authoritarian, Chan-chan, as apparently you do, you must first acquire some genuine authority.<br /><br />However, thanks for confirming, yet again, my suspicions about the anti-individualist mentality of faithful members of <i>any</i> political party or movement.<br /><br />Also, thanks for amusing me.Ivory Bill Woodpeckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01318699512583970467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-30304475448569547392015-10-01T23:33:43.856-05:002015-10-01T23:33:43.856-05:00IBW, you have nothing to add to the discussion but...IBW, you have nothing to add to the discussion but misery and despair. LEAVE. NOW.Chan Kobunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14002224390133771585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-22173709777938290362015-09-30T20:53:22.937-05:002015-09-30T20:53:22.937-05:00Fear not, good citizens! Chan The Faithful Sheepdo...Fear not, good citizens! Chan The Faithful Sheepdog will round up all those doubleplusungood crimethinkers! xDIvory Bill Woodpeckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01318699512583970467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-79385605796558628642015-09-30T10:59:50.118-05:002015-09-30T10:59:50.118-05:00AND HERE COME THE CINDERBLOCKS!<b><i>AND HERE COME THE CINDERBLOCKS!</i></b>Chan Kobunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14002224390133771585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-64035442424112832902015-09-30T10:54:02.546-05:002015-09-30T10:54:02.546-05:00@Ivory I absolutely don't believe that Obama i...@Ivory I absolutely don't believe that Obama is the fulfillment of Dr King or FDR's dreams. However, you can't make the claim that Obama didn't challenge power because he was a black man in a racist society or that he couldn't stand up to the upper class. Those two people are practical examples of how one could rally the country for the causes of good. He didn't have to be as effective as them but he could have tried that he didn't is justifiable cause for criticism.Pinkybumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14966880596265799283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-29259124227768425662015-09-30T07:03:53.396-05:002015-09-30T07:03:53.396-05:00@Pinkybum: Planck, and O'Neill, and Mulderglas...@Pinkybum: Planck, and O'Neill, and Mulderglass himself, Want To Believe--want to believe the glorious myth that Obama is somehow the fulfillment of Dr. King's dream. Hence, the plain mundane truth, that Obama is a reasonably intelligent high-ranking servant of the oligarchy, who is too smart to ruin his retirement by challenging that oligarchy, gets explained away.<br /><br />If the Malefactors Of Great Wealth thought Obama were <i>any</i> threat to their domestic oligarchy and its foreign empire, would they have engineered his nomination in 2008? Especially when the previous favorite had proven her loyalty to the oligarchy and its empire time and time again (and would later prove it yet again in the Obama Administration)? I assume that the MOGW passing her over for him indicates that the MOGW are more sexist than racist.<br /><br />The oligarchy will not allow anyone who might actually challenge it to become president.<br /><br /><i>"Everybody knows the fight is fixed/The poor stay poor/The rich get rich/That's how it goes/Everybody knows"</i>Ivory Bill Woodpeckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01318699512583970467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-40693080553368972792015-09-30T02:57:18.259-05:002015-09-30T02:57:18.259-05:00@Pinkybum and MCPlank
There is no bar higher for ...@Pinkybum and MCPlank<br /><br />There is no bar higher for Democrats than FDR. Obama talked the talk, and took the Overton Window at face value. Sanders walks the walk. As Drift said, at least Sanders knows where to point the M60. OK, Drifty said bazooka, but I'm opting for a repeating firearm here, because goddamn it, Walter White done wasted the white supremacists with a way cool setup in the trunk of a Caddy. (Refuse to post the gun porn that proves Heisenberg's plan would have worked, but still, Drift, a bazooka?)bluicebankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06821812102554488543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-14173660485738780122015-09-30T01:48:04.519-05:002015-09-30T01:48:04.519-05:00There is always room for criticism.
Somewhere ap...There is always room for criticism.<br /><br /> Somewhere appreciation for what did get accomplished requires notice.<br /><br /> Obama;s SCOTUS appointments have turned out very decent and in time shall reflect well on Obama.<br /> Perhaps if Obama;s opponents were set up with projected policies instead of Obama. It could have been very precarious. McCain and Palin? Romney and his 1% vice President?<br />It surprises me at the shock of others that Obama has Imperfections.<br /><br /> To be clear, Obama did have a very seasoned Vice President who was well aware of the GOP. Biden, I think his name is.<br />Fault him for appealing to a brighter side of men. That is fair.<br />It is obvious in the GOP battle cry of repeal and replace when they have no replace. The replace or the :make it better: is so much realistic. <br />Obama said something to the effect, make me do it.<br />Instead of forcing Obama to move the country faster. We did not turn out in the mid terms to have Congress, our elected lawmakers provide the laws for the President to sign.<br />Most stayed home, victims to FOX lying. Not moving fast enough. So I will stay home and let the Geomerts have their Asparagus impugned.<br /><br />I think the presidents accomplishments are superior to his predecessor (Bush).<br />Did Obama meet all of my expectations? No. Did he meet some of them? Yes.<br />Are you better off than if McCain or Romney would have been president. <br /><br />Think about the state of the GOP. Obama;s presence has caused the GOP to openly show their racism, claim their fascism and recently deny the God and religion they claimed .<br />Let us weigh Obama on the next election. Because the next Democratic party president may just tip the 5/4 conservative SCOTUS to a 4/5 Liberal SCOTUS, <br />This can right many things.<br />Sanders has a SCOTUS test of over turning Citizens United. I applaud and support.<br />Would Hillary make that appointment? I think so. <br />Why Obama and the Dems did not appoint a special prosecutor and let the chips fall where they may on Bush and Cheney I will never understand or I do not want to understand.<br />Continuing the Bush tax cuts in time of horrendous economic strife for everyone those tax cuts did not effect. It was wrong and it doesn't seem that he continued tax cuts generated positive economics nor employment as advertised.<br />There is a philosophical dilemma, As unacceptable the GOP rule has been, I do not think imposing liberal ideals on conservatives is automatically just either.<br />But the idea (if actually liberal) of legal abortion. If you do not like to have one--chose not to. But if they are not available, there is no choice.<br />But selling weapons to nits in other countries for profit no matter who dies and put that on the stock exchange for folks to profit from, isn't that immoral and should be banned?<br /> I do know from long experience watching Sanders and his actual actions.<br />I have more historic information of why and where he stands. He is not just talking to me from a TV. Hillary is another story and would take to long.<br />Robthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15736678459663803707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-63720442102879881722015-09-30T01:06:48.643-05:002015-09-30T01:06:48.643-05:00@MCPlanck I think what you are trying to say is Ob...@MCPlanck I think what you are trying to say is Obama is no Martin Luther King and neither was he a Franklin Delano Roosevelt. It is rather pitiful how low you set the bar. Pinkybumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14966880596265799283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-39184357901767649822015-09-29T22:41:16.871-05:002015-09-29T22:41:16.871-05:00A rare miss for you, Driftglass. The idea that any...A rare miss for you, Driftglass. The idea that anyone who is not black could dare to lecture a black man on just how much defiance he is allowed to show is... bizarre.<br /><br />Obama threaded the needle of a uncaring and essentially racist electorate to achieve more policy than anyone thought possible. Now that the electorate has finally noticed the racism, he is being more confrontational; we have no idea how fiery he would be in a society that allowed black men to speak fiercely. Perhaps, one day, we may find out. But until then Obama has demonstrated more than courage and conviction; he has settled for what was available and thus demonstrated maturity.MCPlanckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09239576472889126413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-74033725050544406242015-09-29T20:27:20.299-05:002015-09-29T20:27:20.299-05:00I think that a case can be made that Obama was a p...I think that a case can be made that Obama was a progressive President, and this article outlines reasons why:<br /><br />http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/06/obama-has-now-fulfilled-his-4-big-promises.htm<br /><br />This quotation from the article addresses at a macro level your criticisms, which I think are unfair:<br /><br />All of Obama’s domestic reforms involved compromises and imperfections, a quality they have in common with every major accomplishment in history. Also like the major accomplishments of the past, Obama’s will undergo future revision.<br /><br />It's one thing to talk a good game. It's another to actually accomplish an agenda, particularly in the face of the virulent, unprecedented hatred, disrespect and opposition he faced from the media and the Rethuglicans, as well as "liberals". No, he is not perfect. And yes he made mistakes. But he also made some very gutsy decisions (auto bailout, anyone) while trying to prevent a total economic meltdown and depression. <br /><br />Yeah it sucks that he courted David Brooks. It sucked that my former Democratic congressman opposed abortion. It sucked that my Demoratic senator accused him of sexism for referring Elizabeth Warren by her first name in a news conference when in fact PBO had referred to my Democratic senator by his first name in a news conference. So what. PBO, my congressman, and my senator are smart, principled, hard working people who know how to get things done. They are not perfect. I'm not perfect either.<br /><br />And if anyone wants to call me an Obot go right ahead. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08141640791663745884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-63553545781447879832015-09-29T19:41:43.316-05:002015-09-29T19:41:43.316-05:00Sanders has also repeatedly said that 'Let me...Sanders has also repeatedly said that 'Let me tell you something that no other [presidential]candidate will tell you. No President can't do it [initiate the changes so badly needed by the US] by himself. No President can take on the power of Wall St., the power of corporate America, the power of the the media and the billionaire class'.<br /><br />I wrote something similar to you several months ago.<br /><br />Obama had his best shot when he had Congressional and Senate majorities. He might achieve some minor successes in the rundown of his presidency but for real, substantive change, Sanders is the man.<br />His plan for a 'political revolution' involving the people of the US being involved in assisting him to achieve change through 'bottom up' advocacy is where every clever liberal blogger should be looking for a position.waldohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12395953495678994254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-40186665580043617922015-09-29T19:33:20.894-05:002015-09-29T19:33:20.894-05:00Man. I can't remember a time when I didn't...Man. I can't remember a time when I didn't HAVE to place trust in a politician ... as opposed to seeing one (Sanders) with such Liberal street cred and savvy.bluicebankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06821812102554488543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-86931023886748316612015-09-29T17:41:34.591-05:002015-09-29T17:41:34.591-05:00There's your job, Driftglass. Short term for ...There's your job, Driftglass. Short term for sure, but great for the CV. Drop the NSFW part, and write speeches for Obama. This post is eloquent.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06518025949949879535noreply@blogger.com