tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post4888139082434000760..comments2024-03-28T00:02:35.850-05:00Comments on driftglass: How Was I To Know -- UPDATEdriftglasshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09379167083253389153noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-12638077690298425732013-06-20T17:53:37.797-05:002013-06-20T17:53:37.797-05:00My prediction was correct.My prediction was correct.mahakalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08649042340743257076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-4360261733492290392013-06-19T16:29:55.082-05:002013-06-19T16:29:55.082-05:00Mahakal:
You're still missing the point. The ...Mahakal:<br /><br />You're still missing the point. The reference to 2006-Glenn is not to contradict him or prove him a hypocrite. It is to point out how his opinions have shifted in the last 7 years. The fact that his opinions *have* shifted make it a bit rich for Glenn to quickly conclude that Liberals who's hearts have changed in the last 7 years *must* be mindless Obot partisans.<br /><br />Now, come on Mahakal, you seem smarter than a bag of hammers, and also not a Glennbot (a coincidence, I'm sure); haven't you noticed how every one of Driftglass' efforts to push back on Glenn are solely responses to Glenn's nauseating habit of re-purposing big issues into screeds on the political left. Drifty has said several times that he doesn't disagree with Glenn on the merits of the domestic surveillance issue, that he thinks this needs to be explored, aired out, etc. But why should Drifty turn the other cheek to Glenn's ad hominem accusations when it is Glenn who is trying to make the affirmative case and win converts to his point of view?<br /><br />Glenn's attitude makes a person think that Glenn really wants to talk about Liberal hypocrisy more than he wants to talk about domestic spying. Yet, Glenn's many ballwashers are flabbergasted when Driftglass accepts the invitation to debate the extent of Liberal complicity in the current state of things, instead of, you know, the ostensible topic of Glenn's expose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-17442845354345658512013-06-19T00:33:00.370-05:002013-06-19T00:33:00.370-05:00Shit the Nonny Mouses are all over the place. It w...Shit the Nonny Mouses are all over the place. It was always quite clear FROM THE CONTEXT that Glenn Greenwald was in favor of surveillance of Al Qaeda, and the idea that the FISA court rubber stamping surveillance of all Americans constitutes meaningful judicial review is a joke as well, as Daniel Ellsberg also pointed out. But I predict that nothing I say matters to the Nonny Mouses.mahakalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08649042340743257076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-22565660132283956122013-06-18T21:19:22.544-05:002013-06-18T21:19:22.544-05:00The b side to Werewolves of London was Roland the ...The b side to Werewolves of London was Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner. Played it lots of times on the jukebox. Not sure Lawyers ever came out as a 45 though it did get a little airplay and multiple covers. <br /><br />By the way: lumpy lang, many of us enjoy reading driftglass for obscure SF references. For example, I only have to look at my bookshelf to get the reference to Driftglass. So, these references to droneglass don't reflect badly on him. They reflect badly on you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-18780367404797560962013-06-18T20:47:41.386-05:002013-06-18T20:47:41.386-05:00It is not exactly a big secret how sniffers and sp...It is not exactly a big secret how sniffers and splitters work on routers, servers and internet lines. Now how packet switching can automatically re-route data packets across the world. So it isn't exactly is big surprise exactly ~how~ the NSA is spying on the Rooksies or that Snowden is threatening all we good patriotic bourgeois suburbanites by saying what he said. In fact, if the godess commie Rooskies who sent several people to space and probes to other planets are that clueless about how the internet works, then maybe they would qualify for a job at your old employer. We know now that you get obsessed with these media blokes who you could easily and justly eclipse if the universe was more fair and isometric, but please, please...Less Greenwald, More Mojo. <br /><br />Thank you<br /> <br />-A fanElvis Liveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03464349903915327322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-23514716878869595332013-06-18T20:33:55.544-05:002013-06-18T20:33:55.544-05:00" but your fixation and unfair assignment of ..." but your fixation and unfair assignment of false positions (such as that he once really truly advocated rubber stamped surveillance of all Americans not limited to suspected Al Qaeda) and responsibility to him for things that were not his positions or responsibility begs for some sanity to be restored."<br /><br />No no, Mahakal, no arguing a straw man for you. What GG did at one point was argue in favor of surveillance of Americans with judicial review, which is what he is now arguing against.<br /><br />DG mentions this as a direct rebuttal to GG's fondness of castigating liberals as hypocritical flip-floppers.<br /><br />Do try to keep up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-21547015314884194062013-06-18T20:29:32.242-05:002013-06-18T20:29:32.242-05:00"Mr. Greenwald is not in the byline for that ..."Mr. Greenwald is not in the byline for that article."<br /><br />Ah ha ha, oh you Glennbots slay me. It really is all about defending your Dear Leader Glenn, isn't it? Not the issues or the consequences of Snowden's actions, but Glenn's honor and standing.<br /><br />Well Swede and Mahakal, let me sit you on my knees to explain to you what Driftglass is driving at, because you two little tortoises seem too slow to keep up. Driftglass did not think he was quoting Glenn. Driftglass was quoting articles that disprove one of Glenn's earlier assertions: that Snowden's leak(s) are components of a responsible, surgical expose of government misdeeds. The reality of course is that Snowden's leaks are exactly the same kind of naive, disillusioned vigilantism that got Bradley Manning imprisoned, with Snowden's disclosures of US espionage activities to Russia and China as exhibits (a) and (b) in his prosecution.<br /><br />Snowden doesn't seem to realize where the line is between whistleblower and saboteur. All of you little Greenwald tadpoles don't seem to realize there *is* a line between whistleblower and saboteur. Greenwald himself, who is more of a polemicist than a journalist, doesn't seem interested in those distinctions either; national interest is but a a trifle getting in the way of that ax he has to grind.<br /><br />Oh yeah and lets not forget the capper -- you sophomoric twits can't think of any reason other than envy or obsession that Driftglass may have for distrusting Glenn, in spite of his efforts to explain his objections to you. Kudos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-75262300871349569052013-06-18T20:18:31.227-05:002013-06-18T20:18:31.227-05:00Once again, I hate arguing with updates, but it se...Once again, I hate arguing with updates, but it seems like every other article lately is about GG even when it isn't about GG, but you have lots of justifications for making it all about GG regardless. I don't even particularly care for GG, but your fixation and unfair assignment of false positions (such as that he once really truly advocated rubber stamped surveillance of all Americans not limited to suspected Al Qaeda) and responsibility to him for things that were not his positions or responsibility begs for some sanity to be restored.mahakalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08649042340743257076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-12910581207872195732013-06-18T19:32:09.848-05:002013-06-18T19:32:09.848-05:00Driftglass obviously hates freedom, democracy, and...Driftglass obviously hates freedom, democracy, and hippies.<br /><br />Also, Droneglass.Cinesiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14996950964848333121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-27921290050513987102013-06-18T19:32:00.295-05:002013-06-18T19:32:00.295-05:00Driftglass obviously hates freedom, democracy, and...Driftglass obviously hates freedom, democracy, and hippies.<br /><br />Also, Droneglass.Cinesiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14996950964848333121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-69565859370383479692013-06-18T19:26:31.600-05:002013-06-18T19:26:31.600-05:00The current fusion of the once-'progressive...<i>The current fusion of the once-'progressive' liberals with the rapidly expanding police-state leviathan is the more relevant and urgent issue. </i><br /><br />So, you think that, imaginary and straw-filled as it is, is MORE distressing than the appalling all-encompassing surveillance state that you are always screeching about?<br /><br />Get a grip, Lumber Lung.zombie rotten mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10601960953323752278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-59287400912792513112013-06-18T18:48:31.805-05:002013-06-18T18:48:31.805-05:00The video clip was a stroke of genius!The video clip was a stroke of genius!karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222296664799236390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-15156740580769917702013-06-18T18:01:19.324-05:002013-06-18T18:01:19.324-05:00Time everlasting
Time to play b-sides
Time ain'...Time everlasting<br />Time to play b-sides<br />Time ain't on my side<br />Time I'll never know<br /><br />Burn out the day<br />Burn out the night<br />I'm not the one to tell you what's wrong or what's right<br />I've seen suns that were freezing and lives that were through<br /><br />Well I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm burning for you<br />I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm burning for you<br /><br />http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/45649/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-51078798088746378322013-06-18T17:58:06.041-05:002013-06-18T17:58:06.041-05:00But first there is the politics.
The current fus...But first there is the politics. <br /><br />The current fusion of the once-'progressive' liberals with the rapidly expanding police-state leviathan is the more relevant and urgent issue. <br /><br />Free Bradley Manning!<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14585724033790292974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-64300265453811723322013-06-18T17:52:09.783-05:002013-06-18T17:52:09.783-05:00Swede is correct. The byline for this article says...Swede is correct. The byline for this article says it is by Ewen MacAskill, Nick Davies, Nick Hopkins, Julian Borger and James Ball.<br /><br />No Glenn Greenwald in sight.<br /><br />Please get a grip, DG.mahakalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08649042340743257076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-88058727930093957642013-06-18T12:54:40.461-05:002013-06-18T12:54:40.461-05:00There are those who can wield sarcasm and snark li...There are those who can wield sarcasm and snark like a finely crafted sword cutting through hypocrisy like a hot knife through butter......and then there is lumpy....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-33608822506041943272013-06-18T12:36:14.549-05:002013-06-18T12:36:14.549-05:00LL's job is to bring his latest shitbucket in ...LL's job is to bring his latest shitbucket in and keep hucking handfuls until something sticks.<br /><br />Don't worry, you witless Greensucker - sooner or later one of your ignorant pseudo-left memes will catch on!Pinkamena Panicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-75226582315509593162013-06-18T12:23:26.171-05:002013-06-18T12:23:26.171-05:00Mr. Greenwald is not in the byline for that articl...Mr. Greenwald is not in the byline for that article.Swedenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-44134631307571856392013-06-18T11:12:11.394-05:002013-06-18T11:12:11.394-05:00Way to go Droneglass!
Fight Manning, Assange, Sn...Way to go Droneglass! <br /><br />Fight Manning, Assange, Snowden and all those other oppressors, narcisists!<br /><br />Who do they think they are - forcing KNOWLEDGE on the citizenry... against the rulers' will!<br /><br />Punch down HARDER on those Dirty Hippies!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14585724033790292974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-73323522959590736532013-06-18T11:09:12.425-05:002013-06-18T11:09:12.425-05:00Since my mindreader's license lapsed a couple ...Since my mindreader's license lapsed a couple of years ago, I'm in no position to state with any authority what someone's motivations are, so thanks for telling us precisely why Edward Snowden is doing what he's doing. Unless you're just guessing, in which case you might consider possibly moderating the tone of some of your statements. Or not.<br /><br />It's also unclear to me whether Glenn Greenwald knew for certain everything Edward Snowden had in mind to do (or even whether Snowden knew where this might lead when this whole episode began).<br /><br />But a couple of facts are indisputable: One, which you mention, is that Greenwald is free to publish anything he wants, and that it is as it should be. The second fact is that Snowden is a former employee of a private company. I'm not sure he owes any allegiance to that employer or its clients once he's no longer drawing a paycheck.<br /><br />Perhaps (just perhaps) it would behoove the United States to be a little more careful about who has access to its secrets, if keeping those secrets is important to the United States? Snowden's revelations and the timing of those disclosures are damaging to the U.S., and embarrassing at an important meeting. I'm ordinarily averse to blaming the victim, but in this case, we're talking about the most powerful country on the face of the planet. How in the world did it put itself in a position to be so badly victimized by a couple of nobodies?gratuitousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-64806767728947043262013-06-18T10:58:46.567-05:002013-06-18T10:58:46.567-05:00No Zevon allusion is gratuitous or unnecessary.No Zevon allusion is gratuitous or unnecessary.Hal Ragerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07151969623972197786noreply@blogger.com