tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post4834930556432849222..comments2024-03-29T05:00:41.967-05:00Comments on driftglass: And You, You Can Be Mean -- UPDATEdriftglasshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09379167083253389153noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-87340353342554273362013-06-26T21:15:21.103-05:002013-06-26T21:15:21.103-05:00Ya know, National Review called that one of the 50...Ya know, National Review called that one of the 50th best conservative rock songs of all timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-37280291413475124912013-06-26T12:33:14.258-05:002013-06-26T12:33:14.258-05:00Lumpy Lang,
Thank you for demonstrating, once aga...Lumpy Lang,<br /><br />Thank you for demonstrating, once again, that everyone to the right of you looks alike in your fevered perceptions.<br /><br />All told, I'm pretty uncomfortable with letting wild-eyed idealists and reactionaries decide what is acceptable discourse and what isn't. Without your dribbling to point to I might actually have to work to make a case against sanctimonious nitwits. Thank you LL.<br /><br />-- Nonny MouseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-64380290929462161862013-06-26T09:08:42.997-05:002013-06-26T09:08:42.997-05:00To be more precise - he can now move corresponding...To be more precise - he can now move correspondingly far to the right <i>without</i> leaving the Democratic Party spectrum.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14585724033790292974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-45718454159678485952013-06-26T07:22:55.635-05:002013-06-26T07:22:55.635-05:00Droneglass' progressively increasing stupidity...Droneglass' progressively increasing stupidity and incoherence only makes sense if looked at politically. <br /><br />Just think 'Little Green Footballs' in reverse.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14585724033790292974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-26873220301799126182013-06-26T01:58:36.428-05:002013-06-26T01:58:36.428-05:00But how is this significant?
What, it would have ...But how is this significant?<br /><br />What, it would have been better if he'd gone to work for Booz Allen Hamilton and then, some time in mid-April, decided to leak? In that case, wouldn't you guys be questioning his mental stability, for making such a momentous decision on the spur of the moment?<br /><br />There's just no pleasing some people. ("That's just what Jesus said, sir!")<br /><br />Please explain this to me, someone. I don't have access to this Book of Proper Leaker Etiquette you seem to be referencing. And I'll warn you ahead of time: BAH is as corrupt as any of the private outfits who have their snouts in the Surveillance State's endless smorgasbord. I'm afraid you're going to have a hard time trying to elicit much sympathy for them from me.<br /><br />Snowden so far hasn't given an exact date when he decided to blow the whistle, but judging by what he's said it probably couldn't have been any earlier than at least a couple of years into Obama's first term. Once he did decide to act, that is, to destroy his life, it would have been a stupidly wasteful thing to do <i>if he didn't gather as much evidence as he could</i> to support his declared motive for leaking.<br /><br />Aw, the hell with it. It's too damn late and I'm too tired to try disentangling the rest of this nonsense.prof_fatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-60776827230293805932013-06-25T17:54:20.331-05:002013-06-25T17:54:20.331-05:00I'm going to go read Plame and Wilson's fo...I'm going to go read Plame and Wilson's follow up tweets where they throw a few unnecessary and distracting low-blows.<br /><br />How about you go argue some more against points people aren't making, Compound F.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-92227201560994816102013-06-25T17:51:13.291-05:002013-06-25T17:51:13.291-05:00Yeah, you see how that works when you report witho...Yeah, you see how that works when you report without screeching about the "end of privacy forever!!!".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-84870760027412470762013-06-25T16:24:43.728-05:002013-06-25T16:24:43.728-05:00Meanwhile, back in reality...
http://www.commondr...Meanwhile, back in reality...<br /><br />http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/06/24-1<br /><br />Plame and Wilson are such attention whores...Compound Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12754909356084772352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-35779222071871082332013-06-25T16:05:00.062-05:002013-06-25T16:05:00.062-05:00Oh such glee; I can't let go. I think I love L...Oh such glee; I can't let go. I think I love Lumpy Lang a little bit. He highlights the mental fallacies of the "Droneglass jumped the shark"-crowd so starkly. Driftglass occupied a different position on some past issue, so therefore everything he says now is invalid.<br /><br />Ah well, maybe it is a bit unfair to tar Compound F and Makahal with the Lumpy Lang-brush.<br /><br />I leave you with this observation instead: Just because someone is obviously motivated by a visceral dislike of Glenn Greenwald doesn't mean that all of his observations about GG's behavior and tactics are incorrect. If you are suspicious about the correlation between his haters and his critics, remember that a lot of people dislike him in the first place because condemnation and hyperbole are classic Glenn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-67632831490960654682013-06-25T15:45:34.298-05:002013-06-25T15:45:34.298-05:00To those of you in the audience, pay close attenti...To those of you in the audience, pay close attention to Lumpy's clumsy conflating of Driftglass and David Gregory's positions. It is illustrative of the mindset that Drifty has been railing against. Everyone to the right of Lumpy on this issue is one group: the enemy.<br /><br />Also don't forget that it is people to the right of Lumpy on this issue who are authoritarian hero worshipers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-44179551257685837772013-06-25T15:40:14.430-05:002013-06-25T15:40:14.430-05:00He he he... yep, Droneglass and Gregory are alike ...He he he... yep, Droneglass and Gregory are alike in the only way that matters to you; they both disagree with Glenn Greenwald to some extent. You're a credit to your tribe, Lumpy; never change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-52729278019647835232013-06-25T15:13:14.442-05:002013-06-25T15:13:14.442-05:00Riiight, meanwhile comparing Manning to Judith Mil...Riiight, meanwhile comparing Manning to Judith Miller, and Snowden with Myer Lansky.<br /><br />Not really much daylight between Droneglass and David Gregory on this one.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14585724033790292974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-52273866615908690592013-06-25T14:39:31.642-05:002013-06-25T14:39:31.642-05:00I'm shocked that you don't buy it, Lumpy, ...I'm shocked that you don't buy it, Lumpy, but seeing that you brought it up, here is DG in reference to Manning:<br /><br />" I will gladly stipulate that nuggets of vital, valuable disclosures did come out of PFC. Manning's document dump, that his motives were sincere and that while his status as a member of the military meant his incarceration and trial were inevitable, the harshness of his treatment at the hands of the military appears to have been cruel and unnecessary."<br /><br />Don't worry, I get it though. Anyhow who doesn't dial the outrage up to 11 like you is the enemy. Crusade onwards, young soldier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-38511582549781170552013-06-25T13:43:32.740-05:002013-06-25T13:43:32.740-05:00Sorry, anon - Not buyin it. Droneglass has never ...Sorry, anon - Not buyin it. Droneglass has never come out in defense of Manning et al. Just the opposite - he trashes the whistleblowers even without reference to Greenwald.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14585724033790292974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-79605159016967088472013-06-25T13:24:57.135-05:002013-06-25T13:24:57.135-05:00You little libertarian cubs are so precious. You r...You little libertarian cubs are so precious. You really cannot grasp how bad Glenn's double-talk looks outside of Glennland, can you? For any story that requires interpretation, the reader will evaluate the trustworthiness and judgment of the source when deciding how much of the conclusion to accept. Justly or not, the author(s) *are* part of the story.<br /><br />The risk is that the author and source become a disproportionate part of the story. From the very outset Driftglass has warned how Glenn's peculiarities aid and abet this process. The more he writes himself into story, the more he aids people who would like nothing better than to make the *entire* story be about Glenn. Do you honestly think that Driftglass, in commenting on this process of distraction and deflection, actually created the phenomenon? Or that St. Glenn, who traffics in hyperbole and exaggeration as if any lie told in service of the cause is acceptable, is without blame. Stop being retarded!<br /><br />I have only one complaint about Driftglass' rants on Glenn: he doesn't distinguish clearly enough between "Glenn is a dick"-type posts, which are really just DG's opinion, and "here is an example of how Glenn's refusal to acknowledge mistakes, concede ground on indefensible disclosures, etc., hurts his own advocacy"-type posts. It is the latter of those two that you clowns really should be paying attention to, at least if you give two shits about your ostensible cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-76296791063821057302013-06-25T12:25:19.633-05:002013-06-25T12:25:19.633-05:00Exposure of rapidly expanding secret surveillance/...Exposure of rapidly expanding secret surveillance/police state <br />- world-historic issue.<br /><br />Greenwald's alleged character flaws and offputting 'tone'<br />- irrelevant noise<br /><br />Droneglass exactly reverses the order. Far from thanking those who risked much to inform the public, he clearly wishes the whistle had never been blown on any of this.<br /><br />Free Bradley Manning!<br />Hands of Assange, Snowden!<br /><br />May many more like them come forward!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14585724033790292974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-25255679296090417482013-06-25T11:57:15.727-05:002013-06-25T11:57:15.727-05:00Who pays driftglass?
Does driftglass get weekly...Who pays driftglass? <br /><br />Does driftglass get weekly White House talking points (like booman)? <br /><br />I worked with rats for twenty years, and I smell a fucking rat.Compound Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12754909356084772352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-88094383445925718352013-06-25T11:48:48.248-05:002013-06-25T11:48:48.248-05:00"I really do wish Mr. Greenwald's support...<i>"I really do wish Mr. Greenwald's supporters would convince him to stop. Because he is still sitting on an important and consequential story and the more he lets his hectoring rage and ego off the leash the easier it becomes to dismiss that story."<br /><br />Droneglass should know - he joined the 'dismissers' choir on day one. </i><br /><br />Do you realize that the sentence you quote actually says the opposite?zombie rotten mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10601960953323752278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-83690174046749445792013-06-25T11:36:20.384-05:002013-06-25T11:36:20.384-05:00Brilliant post, start to finish. I rarely comment,...Brilliant post, start to finish. I rarely comment, but I listen weekly and keep you bookmarked. Thanks DG.JackDanieLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-85010959162949838462013-06-25T09:16:23.686-05:002013-06-25T09:16:23.686-05:00"I really do wish Mr. Greenwald's support..."I really do wish Mr. Greenwald's supporters would convince him to stop. Because he is still sitting on an important and consequential story and the more he lets his hectoring rage and ego off the leash the easier it becomes to dismiss that story."<br /><br />Droneglass should know - he joined the 'dismissers' choir on day one. <br /><br />Droneglass hates the messengers - Manning, Assange, Snowden (via Greenwald) because he <i>defends</i> the crimes being committed by the current administration - or praises them with faint damnation - amounting to the same thing. <br /><br />As de La Rochefoucauld put it: "Hipocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue."<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14585724033790292974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-42802786067314047652013-06-24T22:24:21.670-05:002013-06-24T22:24:21.670-05:00It sure looks like Mr. Greenwald will ride this ti...It sure looks like Mr. Greenwald will ride this tiger all the way to the end. Swedenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-5768122639625823072013-06-24T21:56:22.494-05:002013-06-24T21:56:22.494-05:00You'll get to the bottom of this yet, DG! Jeez...You'll get to the bottom of this yet, DG! Jeez, what happened to the guy who was trying to prevent the future? I want him back.Hapnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-45113053144032276362013-06-24T19:26:06.338-05:002013-06-24T19:26:06.338-05:00Oh and p.s.
Kal-el..or whatever...eff u
Your her...Oh and p.s. <br /><br />Kal-el..or whatever...eff u<br />Your hero is shitting the bed,and your god is in it with him!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-75796509201355652032013-06-24T19:24:07.106-05:002013-06-24T19:24:07.106-05:00Its really ashamed that Mr. Snowden wasn't in ...Its really ashamed that Mr. Snowden wasn't in contact with a...you know...lawyer.<br />He might have warned him about making statements that implied premeditation to commit a crime...or implicated "others" in a ...whats the word ....conspiracy....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-74524409279918926992013-06-24T18:40:05.264-05:002013-06-24T18:40:05.264-05:00You're jumping the shark, Driftglass. Seriousl...You're jumping the shark, Driftglass. Seriously. I think CF was right, you've got your membership now. Enjoy the club, with which you may continue to beat non-members over the head.<br /><br />You're now on the side of Dick Cheney and David Gregory, trying to make a prosecutorial argument against Glenn Greenwald for "aiding and abetting" while avoiding the story, which even <a href="http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Big_Brother_Takes_A_Government_Job" rel="nofollow">Charles Pierce</a> now says is <i>"Nixonian, if Nixon had grown up in East Germany."</i>mahakalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08649042340743257076noreply@blogger.com