tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post4825483370011052398..comments2024-03-28T09:14:20.479-05:00Comments on driftglass: Today In Republican Detachment Disorder: Kathleen Parkerdriftglasshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09379167083253389153noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-25915579630303162922016-08-02T08:27:46.658-05:002016-08-02T08:27:46.658-05:00I have always been fascinated by the "conserv...I have always been fascinated by the "conservativism as negation of ideology" from people who then define themselves by what they are against. Ideology is socially constructed, I can say I am a conservative because I eat yellow snow and all those other conservatives who just believe in racism, authoritarianism, and vulgarity are poseurs but it would be pretty lonely. Lots of American "independents" are actually ideological partisans because refusing to join anything is a uniquely bad American habit. Parker, Kirk, and anyone else can claim whatever they like but Reinhold Niebuhr had republicans pegged a long time ago. Republicans, he wrote, embody all of liberalism's vices but none of it's virtues. They do believe that all people are created equal, that's why they make life hard for others. They believe everyone is born free, they just don't like it. Therefore they create as many opportunities to take the freedom of others as possible. Conservativism in America is the dark side of liberalism. Niebuhr even referred to them as the children of darkness who recognize no law beyond their own self interest. The Krakenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384401125404650604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-80924624693682229302016-08-01T14:12:49.749-05:002016-08-01T14:12:49.749-05:00Well, I sure hope the people at the Chicago Metrop...Well, I sure hope the people at the Chicago Metropolitan Water Reclamation District don't say "that's water under the dam" all the time since that's exactly a tell-tale sign of a dam about to collapse. But maybe that was your point?<br />Jimbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891331049535299222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-36990625899905302732016-07-31T14:14:27.795-05:002016-07-31T14:14:27.795-05:00So that faded old get out of jail free card Kathle...So that faded old get out of jail free card Kathleen has been hiding in her purse all this years finally had to be played. Oh well; she had a good run, and was probably handsomely compensated for it - far better than she would have been if she had been posing as an independent all along.Unsalted Sinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07388516480935688151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-66086322230051950962016-07-31T13:02:14.610-05:002016-07-31T13:02:14.610-05:00Unbelivable...as in impossible to believe.Unbelivable...as in impossible to believe.engulfedinflameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501245576197198145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-77345376079312733682016-07-31T12:54:21.309-05:002016-07-31T12:54:21.309-05:00",,,will last only until an "acceptable&...",,,will last only until an "acceptable" conservative (with spear and magic helmet) appears on the horizon."<br /><br />SMOG!!<br /><br />The unease and conflict going on between posh Republicans/Conservs like Parker, Romney and a lot of the <br />"thought leaders" (can't write that phrase without smirking) and Donny is interesting in a creepy way: because according to the bio-profile of him about which its author made an apology a couple weeks ago (not the "Art of the Deal" ghostie, the other guy), one of Trump's primary, deep-seated motives for years has been to force himself into the ranks of the elite. <br /><br />Deeply aware of his origins as a bridge-&-tunnel boy (Wharton or no Wharton) because his dad's money and his own upbringing were strictly Outer Boroughs, he has always hungered to be accepted by posh people, exemplified by the upper echelons of Manhattan wealth and influence. A hunger that has never been satisfied. (It's kind of amazing that he has never grasped the meaning of "vulgarity", even a little.)<br /><br />I remember someone commenting back in the Spring about his obvious fury at being roasted for the birther nonsense by Obama at the Correspondents Dinner in '11. The commenter said they thought his main motive in running for Prez was to be taken seriously.<br /><br />It almost appears that, if that means being seen as a dangerous madman by large segments of the country, he's going with it. OTOH his needy, angry, fragile ego needs praise and admiration too. Not to mention affirmation of his man parts. If I were a betting woman, I'd take 'em on his wiggling out of the debates entirely.Li'l Innocenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12516526103367681109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-5131765263398499212016-07-31T06:47:02.423-05:002016-07-31T06:47:02.423-05:00Bravo.Bravo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-81249257138562925132016-07-31T06:22:02.335-05:002016-07-31T06:22:02.335-05:00Ironic that for decades Republicans and did still ...Ironic that for decades Republicans and did still try to shame Liberals and Progressives for being who they are and now, 8 years or so later, they in droves have ripped the "R" label off their jackets and replaced it with the Tea Party and Independent logos. Who's ashamed now? Hallbowski23https://www.blogger.com/profile/14875117803114822897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-60333624967742537712016-07-31T06:12:43.797-05:002016-07-31T06:12:43.797-05:00I have an idea for these Tea Partier-when shit wen...I have an idea for these Tea Partier-when shit went bad with Bush and now Independent-because Trump Is An Embarrassment Republicans: form a party based on the principles of long-gone but not forgotten St. Ronnie and run a candidate against the Donald. Call it the Estranged Republicans Reminiscing Over Reagan party, or E.R.R.O.R. Ok, that might not work...Hallbowski23https://www.blogger.com/profile/14875117803114822897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-57698948525452415422016-07-30T17:23:18.058-05:002016-07-30T17:23:18.058-05:00Gather 'round, children, time for Grampa Mike ...Gather 'round, children, time for Grampa Mike to regale you all once again with his story of the time - twenty five years ago - Kathleen Parker showed up at the Five Colleges area around Northampton, MA. Lovely place, tons of intellectual energy blasting through the mountains, but all she noticed was the lesbians and the tattoos and the people with odd pieces of metal in their faces.<br /><br />She couldn't scamper fast enough back to her hidey hole in Florida, there to denounce those hideous liberals and their weirdo scary customs in her nationally syndicated column.<br /><br />So, yeah, sounds just like a recently minted Independent former Democrat to me. She is not a conservative in the same sense that Jill Stein is not a homeopathy pushing anti-vaxxer goon: they both are willing to lie about it in public, but they sing a different song when safely among friends.Mike Lumishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14083545582415707582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-44832760051693570342016-07-30T14:47:36.314-05:002016-07-30T14:47:36.314-05:00The cynical side of me has been wondering just how...The cynical side of me has been wondering just how the Party of Jefferson Davis was going to make an un-person of Drumpf. I just realized that *this* is how. They'll simply deny it, they'll all say it was *other* people who led the GOP to this point, but not them nooooooooooooo sir. Nope, he just popped up one day while all of them were off fighting for the Real True Freedomy Freedoms.<br /><br />They aren't even waiting for the Allies to make it to Berlin before they burn the uniforms. Chan Kobunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14002224390133771585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-76427455456046691892016-07-30T13:38:07.702-05:002016-07-30T13:38:07.702-05:00No, she wasn't a Republican, she just shilled ...No, she wasn't a Republican, she just shilled for them and grifted off them. That's completely different. <br /><br />If any Democrat had been worth any lauditory remarks, in the last 30 years, why she would have jumped right in there and given them one of her 'valuable' high fives. Or, because she's an Independent, with a mind as open as Donald Trump's mouth, perhaps an endorcement. But, alas. No, I get it, her 'out' is that she's a Conservative, a capital 'C' Conservative which means, what? That she has Principles? It is to laugh.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06305208020734989122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-60823379464741414112016-07-30T13:35:50.295-05:002016-07-30T13:35:50.295-05:00What D said. Can you say "Neshoba County Fair... What D said. Can you say "Neshoba County Fair"? Didn't think so, and more's the pity. <br /> Hate to tell you this Mizz P, but the job of conservatism, that is, the conserving of norms and traditions, has been abandoned by the Republican party for many years now and left as an addendum to the job description of the Democratic party, along with such other pesky details as governing the country, and stopping the slavering horde holding majorities in congress and most statehouses from wrecking said country. So join the chant of "Out damn spot" in the independent minting queue (or maybe try clicking your heels and chirping "There's no place like home"), but nobody's gonna buy it, and that's your real beef with Trump, isn't it? His calling of inconvenient attention to the awful, awful damage your "movement" has been doing to the country for, oh, ever. And for a girl who claims to like her own company, there certainly seems to be someone you don't like the idea of having to face up to...<br /><br /> -Doug in Oakland dinthebeasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12941071534250216503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-40886809354614595172016-07-30T12:57:33.567-05:002016-07-30T12:57:33.567-05:00@RUKidding:
Guess it's sort of useful to know ...@RUKidding:<br /><i>Guess it's sort of useful to know where Parker's line is drawn, as she certainly loved low-life gauche Trailer Trash Palin a lot until Palin, too, lost her lustre and became uncool:</i><br /><br />She learned to stop worrying and love the dumbass in <a href="https://shadowproof.com/2008/10/01/kathleen-parker-shocked-to-find-her-party-is-full-of-vicious-threatening-delusional-wingnuts/" rel="nofollow">2008</a>, when the caged rabid animal to which she'd been throwing raw red meat for over a decade savaged her.<br /><br />"Ms. Parker," as our host pointed out <a href="http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2016/06/knockin-on-satans-door.html" rel="nofollow">just last month</a>, "has lived by this particular sword a good long time, Helped forge it. Honed it. Made a career wielding it with a fearsome glee. <br /><br />"Now she cannot fucking fathom why her newspaper is being stabbed with it by the Republican nominee for president of the United States."<br /><br />@Fiddlin Bill:<br /><i>Burke's out. Kirk's in, like Ezra Pound's winter.</i><br /><br />Lhude sing goddamm.Neo Tuxedohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15455041641080873400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-29329764029847782522016-07-30T11:50:22.418-05:002016-07-30T11:50:22.418-05:00I notice that she failed to cite the sainted Reaga...I notice that she failed to cite the sainted Reagan in her extremely abridged history, but then she has a word limit and a <i>lot</i> of backpedalling-sans-<i>mea culpa</i> to do.<br /><br />I suspect her "independent" political stance will last only until an "acceptable" conservative (with spear and magic helmet) appears on the horizon.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01347115855111060618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-55066374248858947502016-07-30T10:46:11.475-05:002016-07-30T10:46:11.475-05:00I've seen Russell Kirk mentioned twice this mo...I've seen Russell Kirk mentioned twice this morning. Mark my words, there's a trend a-comin' among former Rethug theorists skittering down the ropes of the square-rigged three-master. Burke's out. Kirk's in, like Ezra Pound's winter. I predict a Rich Lowery citation of the old literary critic before August. Fiddlin Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08083633111240927563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-30859353525915655872016-07-30T10:02:27.798-05:002016-07-30T10:02:27.798-05:00Shorter Kathleen Parker: I was a Republican until ...Shorter Kathleen Parker: I was a Republican until it became uncool. #NeverTrump.<br /><br />Aside: I don't think Parker is all that bothered by the out loud racism, sexism, etc. It's more that Trump, the short fingered vulgarian, is just too low-life gauche for her. Plus all her fancy snobby friends have distanced themselves, so it's now the new cool thing to do. Guess it's sort of useful to know where Parker's line is drawn, as she certainly loved low-life gauche Trailer Trash Palin a lot until Palin, too, lost her lustre and became uncool:<br /><br />"Not that long ago, Palin was a breathtakingly attractive politician of a rare sort. A governor who had challenged Big Oil — and won — she could wow a crowd like few others..."<br />Kathleen Parker, WaPo,2015RUKiddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14057702539722165035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-3706594657658281552016-07-30T09:31:15.123-05:002016-07-30T09:31:15.123-05:00Wow! So Kathleen Parker turns out to be the Don...Wow! So Kathleen Parker turns out to be the Donny Brasco of politics? 30 years deep cover?<br />Lucky for her those guys at The Weekly Standard didn't catch her. They'll tell you, they're tough.<br /><br />On the other hand if she had made the big reveal to me, I would've said what I always say to people who tell me they are "an Independent".<br />"Right. I get you. A Republican with a sense of shame."bowtiejackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03269786110593961195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-70696493217905045022016-07-30T09:29:42.985-05:002016-07-30T09:29:42.985-05:00Apparently she doesn't know that it was Grouch...Apparently she doesn't know that it was Groucho who made that famous quip, getting the wording wrong as well.Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08469262537314894217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-86690902797115463222016-07-30T08:29:54.420-05:002016-07-30T08:29:54.420-05:00Good morning, Mr. Glass.
"Its further appeal...Good morning, Mr. Glass.<br /><br />"Its further appeal, as defined by theorist Russell Kirk,"<br /><br />I know I suggested this to you for Edmund Burke, but "Weekend at Kirkie's" is equally appropriate for the idea of clinging to a conservative whose relevance died a long time ago.<br /><br />I also like how Ms. Parker separates conservatives from Republicans, as if only one side carries the plague.<br /><br />Be seeing you.Kevin Holsingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17568539831959033188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-76744135358443730322016-07-30T07:30:21.506-05:002016-07-30T07:30:21.506-05:00Um... excuse me?
In 2011 she left the show to foc...Um... excuse me?<br /><br /><i>In 2011 she left the show to focus more on her writing.</i><br /><br />Yeah, and in 1997 I left a job to focus more on working somewhere else... after the first job fired me.<br /><br />Kind of like how Ms. Parker "left the show" Parker Spitzer after CNN cancelled it.H.K. Andershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15505724449141761020noreply@blogger.com