tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post389541204662865805..comments2024-03-17T17:09:51.505-05:00Comments on driftglass: I Spy With My Little Eyedriftglasshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09379167083253389153noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-15252261869479221022013-08-29T12:28:08.648-05:002013-08-29T12:28:08.648-05:00Thanks Professor Fate, that helps. I still would ...Thanks Professor Fate, that helps. I still would like to know what Israel's goal in <i>fabricating</i> that intelligence would be, if that's what was being implied. What do they get out of it?<br /><br />And for the record I really don't want us involved at all -- get the UN to deal with it, otherwise WTF are they for? OBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290768768025981403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-57796911370505415242013-08-29T01:52:30.434-05:002013-08-29T01:52:30.434-05:00Well I guess that makes the lie about Edward Snowd...Well I guess that makes the lie about Edward Snowden that much less helpful to Driftglass's argument. Maybe he needs an editor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-29829709133164131992013-08-28T19:50:01.207-05:002013-08-28T19:50:01.207-05:00Dear Mr. Driftglass
from the internet re Israeli ...Dear Mr. Driftglass<br /><br />from the internet re Israeli source for this intel:<br />The Guardian:<br />http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/israeli-intelligence-intercepted-syria-chemical-talk<br /><br />Fox News:<br />http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/28/israeli-intelligence-first-confirmed-assad-regime-behind-alleged-chemical/<br /><br />Times of Israel:<br />http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-intelligence-seen-as-central-to-us-case-against-syria/<br /><br />Can't help getting the sense we're being told what we want to be true. Sober analysis has never been the US Intelligence Agencies strong point.Professor Fatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-30789985311848730612013-08-28T18:29:15.953-05:002013-08-28T18:29:15.953-05:00"The rumors are exaggerated..."
Well, w..."The rumors are exaggerated..."<br /><br />Well, who started that rumor then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-8579440374433779682013-08-28T17:46:29.790-05:002013-08-28T17:46:29.790-05:00You understand...from whom?
Yeah, I'd be inte...<i>You understand...from whom?</i><br /><br />Yeah, I'd be interested in hearing that too. <br /><br />And also what exactly Israel's motives would be in fabricating it if that's the implication. Not that I trust them, I'm just wondering what they'd get out of further destabilization of Syria. Seems like they'd face some blowback (since so many in the region, and here, think Israel=U.S. and vice versa) if we start poking around over there more. What's the upside for them?OBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290768768025981403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-14356248334954517322013-08-28T15:54:20.332-05:002013-08-28T15:54:20.332-05:00I'm just glad America stays out of it. Who kno...I'm just glad America stays out of it. Who knows what rain of terror US interference in a nation like Syria or Egypt might bring upon their respective populations.<br /><br />On the other hand, America's right to "commit to action" should never be questioned but always assumed.<br /><br />because freesom... or somethingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-14026940159600408912013-08-28T14:46:46.186-05:002013-08-28T14:46:46.186-05:00Professor Fate,
You understand...from whom? I am...Professor Fate,<br /><br />You understand...from whom? I am genuinely interested and would appreciate any links to any credible sources you might have.<br /><br />Thanksdriftglasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09379167083253389153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-13371590642565915242013-08-28T14:37:00.003-05:002013-08-28T14:37:00.003-05:001) I understand that this intercept came from Isre...1) I understand that this intercept came from Isreal Intelligence - not the NSA.<br />2) If Assad had actually ordered the attack why the hell would this call exist? it's possible a rogue unit in the Sryian Army did lanch the attack but Assad doesn't seem the type to allow folks to follow their own whims with Chemical weapons. <br />3) as history proves - intellignce that supports the pre-exisitng opinions of the recipient (Bay of Pigs and Curveball come to mind) should be treated with extreem caution. Especially when they are coming from sourses that could very well have a pre-exisitn agenda.<br />4) The timing of this leak- coming before the un inspectors can get to the site is troubling. One hopes folks will supress the urge to bomb Syria for at least a few days to Let the inspectors do their work. Professor Fatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-2158300563413051602013-08-28T13:53:40.102-05:002013-08-28T13:53:40.102-05:00"But I hear that hyperbole dollar is a good d...<i>"But I hear that hyperbole dollar is a good dollar."</i><br /><br />The rumors are exaggerated... Droneglass doesn't seem to have been able to cash in so far, despite his best efforts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14585724033790292974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-45319086199821087342013-08-28T13:43:45.401-05:002013-08-28T13:43:45.401-05:00"I think that's a lie."
But I hear ..."I think that's a lie."<br /><br />But I hear that hyperbole dollar is a good dollar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-9507972981824546852013-08-28T12:42:02.195-05:002013-08-28T12:42:02.195-05:00Nice try, Retired Patriot; but you must know that ...Nice try, Retired Patriot; but you must know that you're micturating up a hempen cord . . .gratuitousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-2594871540531860322013-08-28T12:41:20.778-05:002013-08-28T12:41:20.778-05:00That is my feelings as well, Retired Patriot. I wo...That is my feelings as well, Retired Patriot. I would like to see the initial intel verified or at least buttressed by other sources before the US commits to action.<br /><br />-- Nonny MouseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-39651407009947575652013-08-28T06:46:48.635-05:002013-08-28T06:46:48.635-05:00Others are reporting that it was Israel's vers...Others are reporting that it was Israel's version of NSA (Unit8200) that captured the supposed "intercept," and then shared it with USA and others. Israel is not a dis-interested observer in this situation; they have advocated for some time to regime change the Assads out of power.<br /><br />Don't let your disgust at the GG-ES issue cloud your critical thinking on the Syrian crisis. <br /><br />RPRetired Patriothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653011328780251842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-25618607348897356752013-08-28T06:32:33.252-05:002013-08-28T06:32:33.252-05:00At least that NSA analyst in exile is not sequeste...At least that NSA analyst in exile is not sequestered for a lifetime in a cage, subjected to torture and incommunicado and whatnot. So he's got that going for him, which is nice. bladernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-60740741023129204242013-08-28T03:00:41.948-05:002013-08-28T03:00:41.948-05:00It seems to me this would be a brilliant opportuni...It seems to me this would be a brilliant opportunity to bring charges to the ICJ/World Court in the Hague. If it was an officer who overstepped, try him using the evidence. If he was given orders, first, that's no defense, and follow the chain of command up to Assad himself, if it can.<br /><br />ICJ CAN and DOES try people in absentia, but charges must first be brought. Bombing campaigns against hospitals and water treatment plants generally inhibit the prosecution of war criminals. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-75922456900892422672013-08-28T01:39:53.423-05:002013-08-28T01:39:53.423-05:00"Vladimir Putin now has his very own NSA anal..."Vladimir Putin now has his very own NSA analyst-in-exile crashing right on his own futon"<br /><br />I think that's a lie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363027.post-49490172209314922382013-08-28T00:52:13.349-05:002013-08-28T00:52:13.349-05:00Damn.Damn.marindenverhttp://www.rumproast.comnoreply@blogger.com